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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2013, 10:41:35 pm »
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2013, 10:41:50 pm »
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ye but isnt part of the magic to use components that work well together?  or does every shit work great together these days?  I really am totally out of date so maybe ignore me ^^

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The point of chosing your own parts is to get a more powerful and safer machine out of less money. Most retailers will ship you a PC with no CPU fan, a terrible case and worst of all a shit PSU for 600 euros.

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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2013, 11:54:57 pm »
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or does every shit work great together these days?

It's better than ten years ago, but you can still run into compatibility issues, especially with mobo + RAM and mobo + PSU combos.

If you tell me where you intend to buy, I should be able to compose a list of parts that work well together and get max performance for the set price.
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2013, 11:57:19 pm »
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2013, 12:00:05 am »
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Do you have a monitor, windows 7?

I recently built one for £950 .

http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/220537

^^That was my final build and it is fucking sweet

You can get much cheaper spoecs though.

So go for maybe a 660 nvidia card rather than a 760 that saves you £100, if you have a monitor and windows 7 that saves you around 180, minusing the extras i bought and with a 660 it cost around £600 ( i bought some extras, canny remember them right now though)

Before i forget order a smaller case that one is Large, i bought the wrong one but the graphics card only just fits in this one, so a 660 should fit in a smaller model case.
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2013, 01:11:56 am »
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WD green as your main drive???

The green series is basically for back-ups (slow, quiet and low power consumption)

If you're having a HDD as your primary drive I would go Black series (only about £10 more)

If you're getting a SSD as your primary, then I would go for Black/Blue series for your data

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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2013, 01:55:43 am »
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no matter what... get a SSD :)

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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2013, 03:44:34 am »
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Why you guys no hwlpe find a laptop!?
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2013, 04:26:04 am »
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FrankieonPC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1RKlaSOrFk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUxbivvwPkudpfWrLQHGHQyw

He literally just posted this video a few days ago on this same topic.

here is the link to the store page:http://goo.gl/dSyZNY

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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2013, 07:28:28 am »
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no matter what... get a SSD :)

Not on a budget. Get enough RAM, as it is very cheap even for great RAM, to load the program into memory. Once it is loaded, that SSD is a fancy device that sits there until you need to read from it again.

So you've got 600 Euro's? About $800. So here is a sample. This is geared to be a gaming PC and for your Graphics studies. Meaning, you need to put as much into your video card as you can, except for rendering, which as I understand it is CPU based for Maya, not sure about 3DS Max, but likely the same. So you want a decent multi-core processor as well, with enough RAM to hold what you are running in memory.

I would start with this GTX 760. Price $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130935&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814130935&gclid=COyBnvbajbkCFeHm7AodiRgAeg

Then grab an 8 core AMD processor and motherboard combo. Price $275
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1400909

8GB of RAM should do fine. Price about $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180

Alright. That puts you at about $600 with another $200 to spend on your case, power supply, hard drive, etc.

While an SSD drive is cool to have, it is totally not necessary and costs 2x-5x+ over a standard hard drive. You can get this 1TB drive for half the price of a 256GB SSD. $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

Leaves us with $130

Case ATX mid-tower and 3 fans for $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

So $85 for a power supply.

CoolerMaster 750W for $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053

Now I was looking at the cpu/motherboard combo, and it didn't appear to come with a heatsink. I know we've only got $25 left in the budget, but if you can find the extra cash, I recommend this liquid cooling solution for $60, putting you $35 over budget.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010110575%201377228279&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
If not, well you can get a standard heatsink/fan for your cpu for as little as $10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010110575%201377228279&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

Now, you are still missing some key components, like a CD-ROM drive, a monitor, keyboard/mouse, but those are parts that usually move from the old PC to the new one (the hard drive too often times)

If that is not the case, then you may have some tough decisions, to make, especially if you don't have a monitor. Here's what you can do to free up some cash, but I wouldn't start here if you can help it. It will serve your purpose, but you'll probably look to upgrade in the next year or so, whereas with the specs above, you should get 2-3 years out of it at least without needing to upgrade anything.

So if needing a monitor too, get the GTX 650 Ti (notice the Ti! Do not get just the GTX 650, it blows) which will save you about $70.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130910

That will get you within $10 of a refurbished 19" monitor with 1280x1024 resolution, which that GTX 650Ti will be fine with.

You could also save another $70-$80 by dropping to a quad-core cpu, but if you are going to be rendering from a 3D graphics program, I really would not recommend that you do that. Also, I put the first 3 items first because they are what matters the most. They are also where you can trim the most cash if you find yourself in a pinch, but really, try not to go low on those. Scavenge a CD drive from a PC someone tossed out, or find one at a thrift shop, or ask your friends if they have an old spare. Same thing with keyboard/mouse. Hell, I have a few of those if you lived nearby that you could have. I've even got a monitor that is a spare in case one of the current ones go out.

Finally, here is a video from NewEgg on building your PC. Yes, I like NewEgg. Their prices are good and their items work, and the one time I had an issue, I simply returned it to them after they shipped me the replacement.






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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2013, 08:32:36 am »
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Nice work there Crymoar, that Arctic Cooler Freezer is a good cooler, I've had it in my last computer but unfortunately after a year of heavy issues I had to disintegrate it as I couldn't find the source of all my problems, probably some hardware incompatibility (very very long story, trust me). I've got a new rig now called Gamer Dominator with http://ark.intel.com/products/75124/ inside, SSD, awesome graphic card, etc. so I shouldn't be having problems anymore. 8-)
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2013, 04:52:33 pm »
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no matter what... get a SSD :)

When he's only got 600 Euro to spend?  You're delusional.
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2013, 08:11:07 pm »
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So i asked a french guy if he could help me with this and they gave me this link:
http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur/materiel-net-arkane-pc-gamer-93199.html
He told me that this would be good for around 600 euro computer.
He also added that if i could put a little more cash (200 euros), i could get my hand on an even better spec:
http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur/materiel-net-oxygen-mk1-lvlup-haswell-pc-gamer-94758.html

Both of the computers are already built, i could just buy all the seperate parts and build it myself to reduce the price.
(If u scroll down theres the list of the components, if u need help with the translation just tell me :p)

What do you guys think about it? Is worth it that i add 200 euros more?
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2013, 08:52:56 pm »
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So i asked a french guy if he could help me with this and they gave me this link:
http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur/materiel-net-arkane-pc-gamer-93199.html
He told me that this would be good for around 600 euro computer.
He also added that if i could put a little more cash (200 euros), i could get my hand on an even better spec:
http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur/materiel-net-oxygen-mk1-lvlup-haswell-pc-gamer-94758.html

Both of the computers are already built, i could just buy all the seperate parts and build it myself to reduce the price.
(If u scroll down theres the list of the components, if u need help with the translation just tell me :p)

What do you guys think about it? Is worth it that i add 200 euros more?

...I posted a FAR better computer for the same price. Like, it stomps that one into the dirt...
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Re: Need help for a new PC
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2013, 09:01:02 pm »
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The second one (more expensive) is better.. but neither come with an operating system, both have crap PSU's etc, no monitors/peripherals

So your budget is the main issue. (The first is already maxing your budget)

Put a list together of the price you can get all the parts at (including your peripherals etc)


The current PSU are crap for a gaming computer.. you need to go above the minimum power requirements (eg for the second graphics card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 you need about a 750W PSU not the 500 minimum)

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