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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2013, 04:57:11 pm »
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I think it is suggested that "jap" be censored and replaced by "citrus face insular people"

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2013, 09:52:01 pm »
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i was only trying to give somebody a steam coupon, and you censored it.  Now nobody will ever figure out what i want when i keep talking about cookies, they will think im a joke.

Does anyone want any of the following coupons????

Serious Sam 2 90% off
Serious Sam 2 75% off
Sins of a Solar empire: trinity 66% off
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Sniper Elite: chocolate chip cookie Zombie army 50% off

I keep getting all these goddamn coupons, and i dont want any of this shit.  Anyone want one, maybe trade me something else thats useless.

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2013, 10:58:17 pm »
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Jap is a racial slur.

It takes people back to WW2 era times when it was used as a derogatory term. That's why newscasters or the japanese themselves, when speaking in english, don't use the word Jap very often.
If a reporter working for a major news publication in america were to say Jap when referring to Japanese people on live tv, he would probably be fired for racial insensitivity.

Just like the worder "Nig*ger," which takes people back to a time of slavery, when black people were thought of as lesser humans.
The word "Jap" takes people back to an era when japanese americans were in internment camps, distrusted, and hated because of the actions of the imperial japanese government during WW2.

I don't see how you can argue that it's not a racial slur.

« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 11:04:55 pm by Sir_Hans »

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2013, 11:05:37 pm »
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i was only trying to give somebody a steam coupon, and you censored it.  Now nobody will ever figure out what i want when i keep talking about cookies, they will think im a joke.

lol, that's gold.

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2013, 11:07:58 pm »
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Jap is a racial slur.

It takes people back to WW2 era times when it was used as a derogatory term. That's why newscasters or the japanese themselves, when speaking in english, don't use the word Jap very often.
If a reporter working for a major news publication in america were to say Jap when referring to Japanese people on live tv, he would probably be fired for racial insensitivity.

Just like the worder "Nig*ger," which takes people back to a time of slavery, when black people were thought of as lesser humans.
The word "Jap" takes people back to an era when japanese americans were in internment camps, distrusted, and hated because of the actions of the imperial japanese government during WW2.

I don't see how you can argue that it's not a racial slur.

It's only a racial slur in the USA.

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 10:58:30 am »
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It's only a racial slur in the USA.

Wrong. Here is an example that has nothing to do with America, Other than this was the country which made the term into an offensive racial slur during WW2 for war propaganda.

"...Tension between North Korea and Japan, one of the parties to the talks, has surfaced at the United Nations during a debate over the crisis.

North Korea's deputy UN ambassador Kim Chang-guk has repeatedly referred to the Japanese as "Japs".

"The Japs are now turning the whole society to the right to resurrect militarism and fascism with a view to reinvade North Korea," he told the General Assembly.

Japan brutally annexed Korea from 1910 to 1945.

Mr Kim said he had decided to use "Japs" in retaliation for a Japanese diplomat calling his country North Korea, rather than its official name of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Japan's deputy ambassador, Yoshiyuki Motomurea, said "Japs" was derogatory. He said the use of "North Korea" was a geographical concept, and not intended as a derogatory term.
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http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/05/1068013255536.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#N

Even in North Korea, the most isolated country in the world, they know that the term Jap is an offensive racial slur.

There are plenty of other examples of the word Jap being offensive to Japanese citizens and Japanese minority populations in other countries outside of the U.S.
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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2013, 11:06:11 am »
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chocolate chip cookie is censored because nobody every uses it in a non insulting way, so don't make a bullshit excuse like "it's a political term blah blah". Use your common sense, but this is crpg....

hi-tler was probably a common name, but it's censored because people never talk about any other hi-tler.

But who cares about Jap, i'm not offended, and i'm part Japanese. Forum censors are lame.


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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2013, 11:27:32 am »
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chocolate chip cookie is censored because nobody every uses it in a non insulting way, so don't make a bullshit excuse like "it's a political term blah blah". Use your common sense, but this is crpg....

hi-tler was probably a common name, but it's censored because people never talk about any other hi-tler.

But who cares about Jap, i'm not offended, and i'm part Japanese. Forum censors are lame.

I never said anything about Na-zi being censored, I didn't even know it was censored.
My post, was the comparison of censoring Hit-ler to ethnic slurs like "jap" being acceptable.

Are you insinuating that just because you aren't offended by an ethnic slur, nobody else should be? I find that silly, I don't think it would be too hard to find someone on the internet who says they are black and not offended by the use of the word Nigg*r.

Swedes, Danes, Sloves, Scotts, Poles, Lats, Ports, Brits, Ukes, Malts, Molds, Serbs, and Turks don't get censored either, what is this shit? Please censor all these words because feelings.

Better go edit wikipedias 150+ list of ethnic slurs if you actually think that's what those words are.
They don't list any of those and they have quite an extensive list. (probably because the words you listed aren't offensive slurs charged with racial hatred.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#N
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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2013, 11:32:48 am »
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Sounds pretty sarcastic to me. Are you just trying to troll?

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2013, 01:30:23 pm »
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It is funny how much power people allow words to have in this day and age.

Your point about "jap" is correct because it was exported to Japan, but it still isn't a reason to censor it. I could call all japanese people "christmas trees" and use that as a derogatory term very convincingly, it still doesn't mean "christmas tree" should be censored.


Btw this list can't be serious, more than half the names are from the US, and half of those I have never even heard once.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2013, 01:35:50 pm by Kafein »

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2013, 01:40:00 pm »
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istn jap just short for japanese, i dont get it
As far as I'm concerned calling a Japanese guy a Jap is just as bad as calling a European a Euro
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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2013, 01:54:03 pm »
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As far as I'm concerned calling a Japanese guy a Jap is just as bad as calling a European a Euro

Which is equivalent to call a Japanese a Yen.


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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2013, 02:06:07 pm »
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Can we censor jap to chap? I think that would solve all our woes.

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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2013, 02:20:38 pm »
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chocolate chip cookie is censored because nobody every uses it in a non insulting way, so don't make a bullshit excuse like "it's a political term blah blah". Use your common sense, but this is crpg....

hi-tler was probably a common name, but it's censored because people never talk about any other hi-tler.

yes actually, (educated) people do use it in non insulting ways, when talking about history for example

hitlеr being censored is pointless too, same reason. my other point is, if hitlеr is censored, why isnt stalin? i doubt people talk about mr stalin living next door to mr vasilev in moscow so your arguement is pretty invalid.
stalin was an even worse person, but i guess he was intelligent enough not to focus on annihilating one ethnic group, so that people wont mind as much


back to the original post:
jap is not racist, yes it was used in ww2 often, if someone tried to shout "japanese soldiers incoming!" everybody would be dead before he could finish that sentence
of course everybody associated "jap" with something bad, guess why? because japan was the enemy, a hated, or dreaded one for their willingness to give their life to take some allies with them.
britains were called "brits", americans were called "yanks", soviets were called "ivans", nothing racist about all those
just cause someone might be offended by the term doesnt mean its racist, otherwise you would have to censor every single nickname, like "dude", "mate" etc cause i bet that at least one person on earth will find one of those terms offending
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Re: hit-ler is censored on forums, but a racial slur like "Jap" is allowed.
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2013, 02:38:45 pm »
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Inventing derogatory names for the enemy is part of the "natural" dehumanizing process of war.