So! Bows are nerfed too?

[Sharpe]

My point precicly NERF CAVS! every other class has been nerfed archers have been nerfed into the floor, cav should be nerfed half damage.! =D

But archers haven't been nerfed into the floor, if anything you're complaining about the inability to wear plate,  use a longbow+ 2 packs of bodkins and a flamberge like back in the good ole days.

[Gurnisson]

Lance cav is garbage compared to what it was. It's not hard to top the scoreboards still, but it's harder than a lot of other classes (shielder, polearm, 2h, 2h cav, HA, 1h cav at least)

Also, bows were buffed last patch, not nerfed. I play archer once every blue moon and topping the scorebaord with scoring lots of kills is not hard.

[Nightmare798]

ok i will write this again...

BOWS ARE NOW STRONGER THAN EVER, THEY HAVE BEEN BUFFED THREE PATCHES AGO AND ARE NOW PERFECTLY VIABLE WEAPONS UNLESS YOU ARE THAT DUMBASS THAT SHOOTS GUARDING SHIELDERS AND THEN CRIES ABOUT FORCEFIELD AND ARROWS NOT DAMAGING THE SHIELD!!!

LEARN TO SHOOT...

sorry for all caps but i am sick of those guys crying over and over because they are dumbfucks and cant use their weapons.

[Nightmare798]

Lance cav is garbage compared to what it was. It's not hard to top the scoreboards still, but it's harder than a lot of other classes (shielder, polearm, 2h, 2h cav, HA, 1h cav at least)

Also, bows were buffed last patch, not nerfed. I play archer once every blue moon and topping the scorebaord with scoring lots of kills is not hard.

only think i agree about is fixing that strange lance glitching arm movement when you couch it, it drives me insane to have perfect lock on an archer, only to fail to nail that fker because my dumbass-herp-derp lancer moved his arm completelly off, without me actually moving it.

edit: double post, sorry...

[Adamar]

I find it distastefull that the nerf roller coaster of archery in Crpg can be excused by a recent minor buff to low class bows. As if the class is suddenly out of the shit bag. What's wrong with you people? Are you that manipulateable?

[Bulzur]

ok i will write this again...

BOWS ARE NOW STRONGER THAN EVER, THEY HAVE BEEN BUFFED THREE PATCHES AGO AND ARE NOW PERFECTLY VIABLE WEAPONS UNLESS YOU ARE THAT DUMBASS THAT SHOOTS GUARDING SHIELDERS AND THEN CRIES ABOUT FORCEFIELD AND ARROWS NOT DAMAGING THE SHIELD!!!

LEARN TO SHOOT...

sorry for all caps but i am sick of those guys crying over and over because they are dumbfucks and cant use their weapons.

 

I guess this "ever" is related to your own existence, counted in days ?
May i refer you to this little graphic, pretty easy to understand : 

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Archery is still decently usefull. Still find xbowers more viable though, since most maps have great cover.

[Nightmare798]

I guess this "ever" is related to your own existence, counted in days ?
May i refer you to this little graphic, pretty easy to understand : 

Archery is still decently usefull. Still find xbowers more viable though, since most maps have great cover.

i find this thing hard to believe, there is no definition of ranged power anywhere. post a link to the thread you took this from, would ya?

[Rumblood]

i find this thing hard to believe, there is no definition of ranged power anywhere. post a link to the thread you took this from, would ya?

Click on the quote.

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[Nightmare798]

so there is a nice little red line graph without any explanation of wtf is ranged power, which is supposed to prove archers are still weaker than before with absolutely no info backup?

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[Rumblood]

so there is a nice little red line graph without any explanation of wtf is ranged power, which is supposed to prove archers are still weaker than before with absolutely no info backup?

When God tells you something is true, just bow the fuck down and say thank you lord! Did you not bother looking at who was quoted?

[Bulzur]

i find this thing hard to believe, there is no definition of ranged power anywhere. post a link to the thread you took this from, would ya?

Alas, it seems we don't keep track of "HOW" things were.
I can list a few elements though :

In old days :
-There was no wpf reduction from Armor Weight. (hello tincan archers)
-There was no slot limitation. (hello LongBow + 2 bodkin + Longsword)
-Bows had better accuracy. (hello easy headshots)
-There was something admirable called "jumpshot".
-Arrows and bows weighted less, so kiting was permanent.
-Some lads brought ladders in BATTLE, allowing range something terrible, called "roofcamping".
-Armor was "very" expensive, but there was no upkeep. Most people used low to medium armor. Archers were happy.
-Horses were also expensive, and it was quite rare seeing good dedicated cav. Archers were happy.


Put all thoses elements together, add some "renowned" archers, like Birdman or Chimp on EU, 3 famous DRZ at least (Kesh is still playing ? Haven't been on NA for a looong time), and see that those were definitely the age of archery.



As for the quote, it was made by dear cmp. A developper, and in no way an archer lobbyist. His posts hold truth. Always.

[Nightmare798]

When God tells you something is true, just bow the fuck down and say thank you lord! Did you not bother looking at who was quoted?

gods can suck my dick, there is no such thing as god, and now every fucking christian on this site may come down on me and spread their religious nonsense as much as they want, i will have none of it.

now with this aside the fact cmp posted this doesnt mean it definitely has to be truth and that he may not be mistaken, after all he too is human [unless there is some really weird shit going around there]. and once again, there is NO info on what ranged power is measured in and what the hell it actually is. and yes i did bother to read the page it was posted on, infact i readed through every single bit of text, yet i found no info about this.

[Nightmare798]

Alas, it seems we don't keep track of "HOW" things were.
I can list a few elements though :

In old days :
-There was no wpf reduction from Armor Weight. (hello tincan archers)
-There was no slot limitation. (hello LongBow + 2 bodkin + Longsword)
-Bows had better accuracy. (hello easy headshots)
-There was something admirable called "jumpshot".
-Arrows and bows weighted less, so kiting was permanent.
-Some lads brought ladders in BATTLE, allowing range something terrible, called "roofcamping".
-Armor was "very" expensive, but there was no upkeep. Most people used low to medium armor. Archers were happy.
-Horses were also expensive, and it was quite rare seeing good dedicated cav. Archers were happy.


Put all thoses elements together, add some "renowned" archers, like Birdman or Chimp on EU, 3 famous DRZ at least (Kesh is still playing ? Haven't been on NA for a looong time), and see that those were definitely the age of archery.



As for the quote, it was made by dear cmp. A developper, and in no way an archer lobbyist. His posts hold truth. Always.

now this is what i was looking for, a proof and a thorought info on what ranged power is and in what is it measured.
if this was posted earlier no shit would hit the fan and it would settle in a friendly manner.

thank ye kind ser, your explanation is sufficent enough for me to see i was wrong.

on topic:
LEARN TO SHOOT ARCHERS AND STOP CRYING YOUR WEAPONS ARE NOW PERFECTLY FINE AND BALANCED. I WENT AN ARCHER YESTERDAY ON 22th LEVEL AND SCORED 11/6 AND THAT WAS ONLY BECAUSE I WAS STUPID TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO GET MYSELF KILLED.

tl:dr
thanks for info, l2aim

[XyNox]

gods can suck my dick, there is no such thing as god, and now every fucking christian on this site may come down on me and spread their religious nonsense as much as they want, i will have none of it.

now with this aside the fact cmp posted this doesnt mean it definitely has to be truth and that he may not be mistaken, after all he too is human [unless there is some really weird shit going around there]. and once again, there is NO info on what ranged power is measured in and what the hell it actually is. and yes i did bother to read the page it was posted on, infact i readed through every single bit of text, yet i found no info about this.

Nightmare ... everytime I am forced to glance over one of your posts, I feel an almost uncontrollable urge to vomit, no matter what subject you are adressing.

There appears to be a lot of inconsistency in your general thought processing and a lot of emotional imbalance, which does not seem to have been coped with yet. If it helps, you can PM me about what is depressing you but please refrain from abusing the forum for your personal mental health care purposes.

[Nightmare798]

Nightmare ... everytime I am forced to glance over one of your posts, I feel an almost uncontrollable urge to vomit, no matter what subject you are adressing.

There appears to be a lot of inconsistency in your general thought processing and a lot of emotional imbalance, which does not seem to have been coped with yet. If it helps, you can PM me about what is depressing you but please refrain from abusing the forum for your personal mental health care purposes.

nothing is depressing me aside from a fact that some random guy on internet tells me that a game developer is infailible god, that can never be wrong.
and about those comments on my mental health... go stuff them.