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Re: The (not so) Great Long Axe
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2013, 10:15:23 am »
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wat.

The swing animation of a GLA (when it doesn't skip frames anyway) isn't faster but you can safely hit with it much earlier than with any 1h, making it effectively faster, I think that was the point.

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Re: The (not so) Great Long Axe
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 04:01:49 pm »
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The swing animation of a GLA (when it doesn't skip frames anyway) isn't faster but you can safely hit with it much earlier than with any 1h, making it effectively faster, I think that was the point.

indeed, also the hiltslashing...
P.S i was talking about long bardiche, but the effect is practically the same...
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weapon length: 103
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thrust damage: 29 pierce
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weapon length: 140
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 89
weapon length: 140
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
cost: 6934
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imho, speed rating as of now is completely useless because it doesnt have practically any impact over long weapons.
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Re: The (not so) Great Long Axe
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2013, 04:11:55 pm »
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Re: The (not so) Great Long Axe
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2013, 04:19:06 pm »
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indeed, also the hiltslashing...
P.S i was talking about long bardiche, but the effect is practically the same...
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weapon length: 103
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speed rating: 99
weapon length: 103
thrust damage: 29 pierce
swing damage: 27 cut
slots: 1
cost: 10434

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weapon length: 140
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 89
weapon length: 140
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
cost: 6934
Can't use on horseback
Bonus against Shield

imho, speed rating as of now is completely useless because it doesnt have practically any impact over long weapons.
If that's the 1her you're using, you're probably hitting first but bouncing, it's easy to miss the sound (sometimes I think the bounce sound just doesn't play). This is the downside to low cut damage, you need to either have high ps or hold most of your attacks to ensure that you won't bounce on your opponents armor. Generally the previous statement applies to all cut 1hers, but it rings especially true for the Espadas.

I don't buy the "effectively faster" argument when we're talking about a difference of speed as large as this.
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Re: The (not so) Great Long Axe
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2013, 04:28:27 pm »
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If that's the 1her you're using, you're probably hitting first but bouncing, it's easy to miss the sound (sometimes I think the bounce sound just doesn't play). This is the downside to low cut damage, you need to either have high ps or hold most of your attacks to ensure that you won't bounce on your opponents armor. Generally the previous statement applies to all cut 1hers, but it rings especially true for the Espadas.

I don't buy the "effectively faster" argument when we're talking about a difference of speed as large as this.
you know whats funny? charging up an attack with 1h, release it, and get one shotted by long bardiche user that was starting his swing in the middle of yours, or better yet getting hiltslashed, by LB with cut starting with weapon pressed against your chest, doing full damage [bonus points for hiltslashing with barmace for insta-hiltslash-knockdown]. i am sick of dudes with long weapons hitting me at facehug range at absolutely bullshit angles, where any 1h weapon would bump harmlessly. i dont mind people having stronger, cheaper weapon with longer reach, but they should also be penalized somewhere. what LB is now is uber-speed-any-range-cheap-fuck-you-i-do-full-damage-in-any-situation weapon.
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