Longsword

[Clockworkkiller]

Longsword is gay OP

Nerf it, my minions

[Elindor]

I'm starting to think you are gay...

[Clockworkkiller]

I bet you use the longsword


It's ok everyone was a scrub once

[Elindor]

You bet I do...have for a long time..actually want to trade it though for something else, not sure what yet.
In case you are interested, which I know you are not, I use the LS because it is short enough to not get caught on everything in siege. 
Although I'm starting to want something longer like the Two Handed Sword, because that would be better for battle.

Not the reason for my comment though - that is purely related to your (and others lately) high frequency of unsupported QQ threads.
I'm indifferent to whether you think LS is OP or not.  I'd vote to have it's speed reduced by 1 again, don't think that buff was necessary (but if that were done I'd have the katana do the same).

Besides, the weapon you should be complaining about is the Miaodao 

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[[Ant]]

^Worst "power player" screen shot i have ever seen.... ever. 9 kills and only 66 points you backslashing little bitch ;)

[JasonPastman]

The longsword is overrated.  The thing about the longsword and other weapons of a similar nature is that if one takes the time to master their potential they will seem op, but in actuality it is the players skill and not simply the weapon that is truly op. 

[Froto_the_Loc]

I have Elindor's back on most everything, hard to disagree with someone so...eloquent?

But, the longsword is my mortal enemy.

[Dalfador]

Longsword is a good sword, especially after its last buff. However I don't think it's overpowered. It's simply too short even with the 2h lolstab to be that threatening to players with longer weapons. Looking at your avatar, it seems you use a shield and a warhammer...? Not a very long weapon so a longsword user would have you outreached and outsped.

Although I play a polearmer so I'm used to outreaching most things, except the 2h lolstab.

[Elindor]

^Worst "power player" screen shot i have ever seen.... ever. 9 kills and only 66 points you backslashing little bitch ;)

I can upload more if I have to...but only did so to cut off the scrub talk.

And more importantly they are not "power player" screen shots...I am decently good, but no "power player" for sure.

Oh, and Cyranule in that screenshot has 7 kills and only 59 points...you wanna call him a backslashing bitch?   I didn't think so.

[Elindor]

I have Elindor's back on most everything, hard to disagree with someone so...eloquent?

But, the longsword is my mortal enemy.

I understand Froto.  We're cool.

[Rebelyell]

when bad players start QQ thats to op...

YOU BLIND IDIOTS GO CHECK MIADAO AND AND THEN START WHINE ABOUT LONGSword


it was 1 point slower and maybe 1 dmg less for ages and no one gave a fuck no ONE, it was fine for everyone


miadao is op
greate axe is op
Sow is op
dadao for prize is just silli

and barmace because of that knock down

2 handed war axe is just best axe for strat

check that weapons, if you can't see how awesome they are dont whine here because you are....


but no
danish longsword op
lolstab op

[korppis]

I'd vote to have it's speed reduced by 1 again, don't think that buff was necessary (but if that were done I'd have the katana do the same).

Same, would vote 1 (or 2 with HBS/BS) speed reduce for LS/BS/HBS, but not for katana (pre buff speeds were fine). The thing is that all those swords are 6-11 points longer and 0.3-0.5 heavier... IMHO the speed should be at least somewhat linear with those two stats.

	Length	Weight	Speed
Katana	95	1.5	100
BS	101	1.8	101
HBS	105	2	100
LS	106	1.8	99

[Phew]

Longsword doesn't start to seem OP until people abuse hiltslash/facehug lolstab/spinthrust/etc, which can be done with almost any 2h anyway. IMHO, Elindor is the best 2h player that doesn't abuse any of that crap; he just blocks your sh!t then employs basic footwork/holds/feints to kill people.

It's the guys that do nothing but abuse broken game mechanics that give Longsword a bad name, but Elindor isn't one of those guys.

[Necrorave]

The only problem I have is the amount of damage it does compared to other 2h weapons.  A greatsword should do more damage.  I am fine with the speed, although if they either dumbed down the speed or the damage slightly it would be fine.

40c for a 100 speed sword is a bit ridiculous.  I personally think the only thing unbalanced in the game is the 1/2h swords.  Although, people may argue that is because I do not like playing 2h.

PS: I did try playing 2h and found it fairly easy with the longsword.  It does not fit my play style though.  I do have respect for those that use the Great swords, even though lolstabs make me cry sometimes.

PSS: Silly post by a silly man

[Elindor]

Necrocrave, you probably found it easy because you are a good player   Good player is a good player.  When I play 1h/shield I find I do well with that, but it's boring to me cause I prefer the manual blocking challenge.  Not saying anything bad here about 1h/shield (awesome class and many awesome players use it), I'm just saying a good player is a good player.

Also, LS and other 2h swords like it are good because they are very well rounded weapons....pretty fast, decent damage, decent length, etc.  Other weapons like a greatsword are meant to be longer and more damaging but slower and harder to maneuver, and a nimble 1h is supposed to be faster and more agile but less damaging.  A sword like the LS is the middle of the road sword.  Now, do I think that is all balanced perfectly right now?  Not exactly.  +1 here and -1 here on some things and they'd have it.

People need to stop just going "NERF LS ALL LS = SCRUBS" (and 2h in general) and actually come at it with some sound logic and mechanical balancing solutions.
Not to mention, if someone sucks you should be able to kill them either way, LS or not.   LS is not some magical weapon....its fast and decently damaging if you have good PS but its short, and if they suck they shouldn't be able to manual block and stuff that well, right?  So wait for them to spam and then close in and kill them.

The issue you bring up with the LS and lighter swords dmg compared to the great swords is because they recently NERFED the greatswords mostly to appease the EU community I think....in conjunction with that they buffed the LS and other lighter swords by 1 here or there and now many use those instead.  I agree it doesn't all make sense....

Funny thing is how much people whine about LS when I really don't see that many....if you go into battle its mostly polearms and ranged, and if you go into siege its mostly 1/h shield from my experience.