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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2013, 07:46:53 pm »
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This rant just proves that you have no idea about throwing. Same as the OP...
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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2013, 07:48:01 pm »
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Cmp, can't you force OP and Necrovave to play 1 gen of throwing before being able to play any other class?
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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2013, 07:52:14 pm »
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Cmp, can't you force OP and Necrorave to play 1 gen of throwing before being able to play any other class?

Fair enough.  I never did enjoy throwing so this was all speculation.  Not going to argue because you are right.  I never did play throwing all the way through a full gen.  (Maybe like level 25ish lol)

I was just stating that I find people never look at the other facts about throwing.  I am not siding with either side of this argument.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2013, 09:07:03 pm »
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In before Smooth ranting about how overpowered throwing is for a long time and everyone's just too stupid to see it.

It is stronger than most people realize.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2013, 01:11:33 am »
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All I know is that whenever I meet a thrower on the battlefield I turn tail and run. If Mendro or Alpson joins the server I can basically stop playing. Throwing hits like a truck and they rarely seem to miss me.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2013, 02:41:20 am »
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All I know is that whenever I meet a thrower on the battlefield I turn tail and run. If Mendro or Alpson joins the server I can basically stop playing. Throwing hits like a truck and they rarely seem to miss me.

Now, I can relate.  I may not run away as much although I do tend to target them first because they are the biggest threat to a shielder (In my opinion)

I tend to either kill them first or stay away from them.

I never found them deadly though.  They have killed countless amounts of my shields, although I do not get killed by throwing as often as other classes personally.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2013, 01:33:45 pm »
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People arguing that throwing is weaker than other ranged are usually not considering other facts about throwing...

To start you can throw many projectiles in a small time span, while xbows have a reload time in which they must stand still.

Throwing has the lowest accuracy decrease while moving and allows them to still be somewhat accurate while mobile.

More damage than a bow (For the most part) but less than an xbow.  (To fill the gap between them while at the same time creating a Medium/close ranged attack.)

The ability for a thrower to go melee in a split second instead of changing weapons is a huuuge advantage.  Whether or not you are skilled in melee with that weapon is fairly null.

1h throwing weapons such as the axes and hammers are decent melee weapons to begin with.

I can agree that the weight is a bit weird and does not seem to make sense.  Although, there is a reason that it is that way and should remain that way.

EDIT: This is pure speculation considering I have not played a fulled gen of Throwing myself.  Just reminding people that their are other facts about throwing than the obvious.

you got it totally wrong, throwing is as slow as archery, you have lower accuracy, missile speed and almost any thrower uses dedicated 1h [or 2h] weapon in melee, as would any archer and xbowman, because throwing weapons in melee just plain suck [unless you have 7 athletics and can face hug like a pro in which case you have slight chance to beat a dedicated 1h/shielder or ther thrower].
accuracy when running is totally shit and you wont hit unless your target is 4 feet away from you and not moving. more damage with thrown is true against archers, but archers have much higher accuracy and can loom both their bow and arrows.
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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2013, 02:08:38 pm »
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I survived 2 throwing lances to my stomach (had 10% health left after these 2) the other day.  Yeah, throwing is really overpowered.

The guy just needs 3 out of his 4 throwing lances to finish one guy off, thats INSANE. 


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Damage on throwing lances vary a lot, sometimes they will 1 shot me, sometimes they will take 1% of my health, its really weird, but i fear throwers a lot, but they are by no means OP
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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2013, 04:00:04 pm »
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lances suck
h axes suck to
imo best are spears jarids and war dart that are amazing!

but thrower are far from op cuz most of the time they are able to kill max 3-4 peps if they do really good
because ammo is really limited
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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2013, 05:38:10 pm »
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For some reason that is still beyond my ken, they have even removed jump throwing throwing.

I don't think anything else needs to be done about throwing.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2013, 07:07:03 pm »
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Is this is call to nerf dedicated throwers? I can count the number of dedicated throwing mains on NA with 1 hand. It's a class that excels in exactly two circumstances (anti-cav and medium range skirmishing), and only until they exhaust their 4-16 ammo.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2013, 07:13:47 pm »
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EU has a working jump-throwing. cmp brought it back.
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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2013, 07:27:32 pm »
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Is this is call to nerf dedicated throwers? I can count the number of dedicated throwing mains on NA with 1 hand. It's a class that excels in exactly two circumstances (anti-cav and medium range skirmishing), and only until they exhaust their 4-16 ammo.

Yeah I don't get it. Dedicated thrower is very weak. Even Artie who is probably the only really good one rarely tops kill charts.

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2013, 08:00:11 pm »
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Damage on throwing lances vary a lot, sometimes they will 1 shot me, sometimes they will take 1% of my health, its really weird, but i fear throwers a lot, but they are by no means OP
Due to the slow projectile speed, throwing is very sensitive to speed bonus. The damage difference between a thrower hitting a victim when they are running at each other is much higher than if they are both moving away from each other (so be careful chasing throwers).

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Re: Unfair advantages to throwing?
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2013, 08:50:24 pm »
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for throwing, the thrower's movement speed doesn't factor into speed bonus, only the target's.