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Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« on: July 09, 2013, 07:14:49 pm »
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Posted in another thread and it wasn't really on topic :o

Now that we have nudge my suggestion (if its even possible) is to introduce the spiked Targe which does damage on nudge.
The shield is small and is not the strongest shield so i think it could be balanced.

my suggested stats are these

Spiked Targe

Weight: 4.5
Body armour: 12
Difficulty: 3
Hit points: 200
Speed Rating: 90
Shield Width: 68 (same as nordic/leather coverd shield)
Thrust Damage: 15 Pierce (less than all the daggers and as your open to being hit when you nudge it isnt that high IMO)

Cost: 3000

obviously the stats are just taken from a quick look and i cant see anything OP.


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Targes are generally, but not always, round shields between 18 in and 21 in (45–55 cm) in diameter. The inside of the targe was formed from two very thin layers of flat wooden boards, with the grain of each layer at right angles to the other. They were fixed together with small wooden pegs, forming plywood. The front was covered with a tough cowhide, which was often decorated with embossed Celtic style patterns. This was fixed to the wood with many brass, or in some cases, silver, nails, and occasionally brass plates were also fixed to the face for strength and decoration. Some targes had center bosses of brass, and a few of these could accept a long steel spike, which screwed into a small "puddle" of lead that was fixed to the wood, under the boss. When not in use, the spike could be unscrewed and placed in a sheath on the back of the targe. A Highlander was usually armed with a broadsword or dagger in one hand and a spiked targe on his other arm for close combat.
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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 07:20:22 pm »
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I like the idea, although I don't think nudges have speed bonuses of any sorts.

So I think the damage would be too high to just do that much every time it hits.  It would have to be something low.  Although, I believe the damage aspect of it would be part of the nudge itself, not the shield.

I am not saying it is impossible, but it is a lot harder then it may seem.

In my opinion, if this were to come out the shield will have to have a slow speed rating as well and lower damage.  Maybe like 5-10 pierce damage

Nice idea though.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2013, 08:51:53 pm by Necrorave »

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 08:30:41 pm »
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INB4 13 shield skill targe nudge invincible stun locking death machines
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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 08:40:39 pm »
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except you don't block when you nudge so would be easily 1 hit
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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2013, 08:56:11 pm »
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Good Idea, but you should can block it.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2013, 09:29:38 pm by Man of Steel »
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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 02:24:06 am »
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Strength and power strike should effect the damage then.

To balance it make some crappy shields with a spike in the 3-4 shield range, better ones in the 6+ shield range

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 03:48:53 am »
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Hope you're not talking about my post...
Yes a Targe would be chill, but considering that powerstrike isnt really how hard you hit, but your ability to hit hard, i would say only strength (being strength affects nudge anyways)
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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 06:55:32 am »
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Don't we nudge with the under side of the shield though in this game? We don't use the front of the shield so we would need a new animation to make it work.

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2013, 01:06:48 pm »
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Don't we nudge with the under side of the shield though in this game? We don't use the front of the shield so we would need a new animation to make it work.

Blocking nudge uses the face of the shield.

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2013, 05:04:51 pm »
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It would be op since nudges are currently unblockable. Its a good idea but the nudge system needs to be fixed first  :D
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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 05:09:22 pm »
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It would be op since nudges are currently unblockable. Its a good idea but the nudge system needs to be fixed first  :D

I wouldn't go so far as to say "Fix" it.  I feel it is fine.  Just tweaks here and there maybe.  Nudges are kinda blockable actually (If you have a shield)  The nudge will not push you as far and the stumble lasts a shorter amount of time if you have a shield raised when you get nudged.

That was why I was thinking of making so it ONLY does damage on Shield blocking nudges with REALLY low damage.  5 pierce will not go through armor and it will damage those who do not wear a lot.  Which is what a Targe was effective for.

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2013, 05:19:06 pm »
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The shield blocking nudge as actually quite tricky to land

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2013, 05:41:22 pm »
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A spiked shield would deal damage on attack and defend nudge with the current anims.

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2013, 05:45:12 pm »
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A spiked shield would deal damage on attack and defend nudge with the current anims.

Careful Paul, you know what comes after this?  "SPIKED GLOVES PLOX"

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Re: Spiked Targe Shield (damage on nudge)
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2013, 09:48:55 pm »
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Careful Paul, you know what comes after this?  "SPIKED GLOVES PLOX"
SPIKED BOOTS PLOX so I can do pierce damage on kicks.
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