Archery after last patch

[Gurnisson]

you just fucked those people in the arse who loomed bows to +3

Clearly.

 Archers who had their stuff loomed ended up with better stats after the patch. Why whine about the non-loomed stuff actually being usable?

you made the differences between +3 and normal peasent scrub bow so neglible they are not worth looming.

Accuracy, missile speed and 5 more arrows is nothing (33 % increase on bodkins is major!)? It's still a stat boost, and I'd definitely loom it if I wanted to archer again. At last the difference between looms and no looms on ranged weapons makes sense, lite it does with (most) melee weapons.

[Leesin]

Revert it and buff HA because for the first time in a long time HA doesnt feel so over nerfed 

[Falka]

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LOL cmp mad

[obitus]

Simple solution , Buff CAV 

I had been ironically saying this for ages, but now it truly is needed

[cmp]

LOL cmp mad

On the contrary, I find it quite amusing that somebody who plays one class is asking for the removal of a balancer who played pretty much every class in the mod and has shown to be free of bias countless times.
Amusing enough to warrant a title.

[Necrorave]

Clearly a "Im not as good as I used to be, fix it" Thread.

I'm not ranged except for the occasional xbow gen.  Although I feel this buff was needed.  I have not noticed much of a difference (Although I use a shield so what do I know?)

Although, people need to realize that the game is not supposed to support you.  It is supposed to support everyone.

[Grumbs]

On the contrary, I find it quite amusing that somebody who plays one class is asking for the removal of a balancer who played pretty much every class in the mod and has shown to be free of bias countless times.
Amusing enough to warrant a title.

I'm asking for balance in the item balance team. Get some guys that won't be afraid to put their views forward who actually play the game regularly. Getting people onboard who already agree with your views is counter productive. No I don't want pure representation from a polearmer, get some regular highly skilled battle players on the item balance team thats all, so you have people who see the game differently to yourselves.

You have to come from a position of pure arrogance to see polls, general discussions, server population and still think you should not have people with opposing views on the team

[cmp]

I'm asking for balance in the item balance team.

The balance team is already more balanced than you could ever imagine, so I guess there's nothing to change.

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[Grumbs]

The balance team is already more balanced than you could ever imagine, so I guess there's nothing to change.

Yet the thought of adding guys with countering views is met with such hostility. If it were truly a balanced team you would welcome more guys, not want to put labels like Taliban on guys who suggest it (and now every page with my posts on has Taliban in arabic, nice move for professional dev team)

We have loads of guys in the item balance thread, why not have some more?

[Paul]

Tydeus is a well known ranged/cav hater and melee suprematist. He is also part of the balance team. The archery changes were done on his initiative.

[Rebelyell]

Tydeus is a well known ranged/cav hater and melee suprematist. He is also part of the balance team. The archery changes were done on his initiative.

EU archers balanced by NA player

[Berserkadin]

I remember when all bows did pierce damage  But this clearly is a new level of OPness. Unloomed archers actually being able to hurt people with their bows?!

A shield won't help you if you're to stupid to use it properly.

[Grumbs]

I don't believe he's not influenced by the guys who took him on board to make balance changes. Its also very easy to say you are super unbiased melee player and then buff ranged

At any rate, when you have even ranged guys wondering why they were buffed and you look at the server population you have to wonder if you made the right changes.