Declaration of Neutrality in the coming wars. (NA)

[Turboflex]

Why do you keep running your mouth?

First, how the hell is Chaos a Occitan vassel?

It's also abnormal for 60% and not 100% of people in the same faction to use the same teams peak.

Then you speak of care bearing. FCC is a mega alliance between 7(?) factions let alone all of your butt buddies., you invented that in NA.

80%?

Occitan                  Unicorns
Chevs.                   BRD
Frisia.                   Narwhales
Hosp.                    AoW
Raven.                 Remnant
Chaos.                 HoC
Seamen storm.     Acre
                           Beserks
                           RoR
                           3rd RL

It seems as if it is closer to 60%...... In your favor.

I really feel bad about this mental duel because it seems as though your unarmed.

You forgot Fallen & HG

[Keshian]

You forgot Fallen & HG

Turbo, really?  keep listing every 4-man faction on our side - while your side has every major faction but 2 all carebearing together on the map.

I guess we should have all our clan members added a different clan tag so we have 60 - then FCC will make up 99% of the player base by jack's calculations.

[Eatmoorechicken]

man, what are you talking about duder, dont you get like RoS, acre, and every vassal of yours to farm troops for you or something? what a hypocrite.

wouldnt be the first time you confuse your enemy for yourself 

RoS=vassal? Nope.

[Kreczor]

lol, we have no vassals.  We sold a bunch of your fiefs for troops to make up what we lost.  Thats not a vassalage or farming.  Also, congrats on becoming another Occitan vassal - kind of inevitable since 60% of NA players in a faction share one ts - whoever was the idiot who thought that would add to strategus - same thing UIF does in EU - share one giant ts and alliance so that it become massive carebearing - thank you occitan for bringing that to NA.  Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together at this point and you don't think thats going to kill strat on NA side?  Show some balls and independence.

eh? know your shit man. we only share a teamspeak because we don't pay a cent, whereas they used to be spending like $10-$15 bucks a month for their old one. aaaaaaaaaand we're just friends, not vassal either way. its a tricky concept tbh, kinda like your entire clan (fcc) is a group of friendly clans.

and you cause too much shit for NA to be a carebearing map, thanks for that though. at least you're collectively giving everyone in NA someone to hate

RoS=vassal? Nope.

i havent known the clan specifics since i havent played in months (now and then). you get the jist of it

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

To Reinhardt: It's pointless to say "we're at war with Frisia, but we're not on FCC's side". Basically, anyone that is against the same enemies as Frisia (HoC, FCC), will see your aggression towards Frisia as a means for their cause to lose troops that would otherwise be lost fighting the common enemy. So they just lump you in as their enemy in many situations. Additionally, in this large conflict of block vs. block aggression picture how Keshian would react towards you if you were to say "we're not part of the mega-alliance against FCC, we're just at war with FCC! So we're totally neutral!" Looking at it that way you can see it makes no sense. Your neutrality might matter to your faction, but any faction on the block opposite from where your attacks land will consider you a friend, and the block where your attacks lie, they will consider you an enemy for all of the block. Keshian would not for a second stop asserting that you were just part of some mega-alliance versus his faction if you tried to pull the reverse of what you are doing.

Sidenotes towards the other stupid ongoing argument: Ravens has their own TS3, forums, server, and they aren't at war with FCC. Frisia has it's own TS3. Astralis has their own TS3 and does not have a history of signing up against FCC in force. Finally and most importantly, when I first joined this game nditions was a crazy huge power-house of TS3s. Little has changed, just the IPs of where these people are hanging out and having fun with like-minded people.

[Tojo]

I think someone hijacked Daruvians account there was not a single homosexual reference in his post.

Also FCC now stands for Friendly Clan Collaboration

[Artyem]

I can't even understand what logic they're trying to follow here.

You declared war on a faction who will (and does) play a part in these 'upcoming conflicts' you speak of.  Then you try and declare neutrality when you're clearly already non-neutral.  I at this point assumed you couldn't be any less neutral, but of course you then "rightfully purchased" a castle in the middle of a faction that is currently under siege from four factions and assumed it was alright because no one should have claims on ALL of that land.

Yes, it's truly absurd, and now of course you're trying to take it back and continue being "neutral".

[Sandersson Jankins]

Don't forget your chinese troop farming vassals (blood clan) that you dont actually have to hire for your battles.

I'm only going to reply to the silliest post in the entire thread.

Why the fuck would you possibly think that these chinese fellows are farming troops for us? The only possible thing that I could think of is you made the astute observation that perhaps 4 of us signed up for the chinese battle today, therefore they are troop farming for us.

Seriously man, the fuck?

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also, this is the briefing for that battle:
I want to find a warm home ~! roll call 10 minutes before siege on the server.There will be a large siege tower,to the top and jump then we know you are here. yy54222511

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This is a fucking GENIOUS method of roll-call for them. I was fucking impressed.

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

Yeah, I really have no idea what Kesh is talking about thinking the chinamen are our troop farmers, shits cray.

[Duster]

I think I can clear this whole Chinese troop farmer business up. Blood has been recruiting and trading peacefully in the desert for a long time, and SEMENstorm left them alone because they acted cool (most of the time).

Recently their leader sent me a message explaining that all they really wanted for Christmas was a home to attack FCC from. That's pretty awesome in my book, seeing as most of them don't speak or understand any english but they still hate FCC. 

So please, Kesh, continue your crusade of PR for FCC by throwing out wild and nasty accusations to your perceived enemies, because after awhile, they become your real enemies.

[CrazyCracka420]

The more vehemently you deny that the Chinese are farming troops for you, the more obvious it is you're hiding something.

[Penguin]

You forgot Fallen & HG

And the conquistadors, PFC(DDS),bros(eu clan that may have changed names) and whatever name the blackfist kids go under these days.

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[arowaine]

Why do you keep running your mouth?

First, how the hell is Chaos a Occitan vassel?

It's also abnormal for 60% and not 100% of people in the same faction to use the same teams peak.

Then you speak of care bearing. FCC is a mega alliance between 7(?) factions let alone all of your butt buddies., you invented that in NA.

80%?

Occitan                  Unicorns
Chevs.                   BRD
Frisia.                   Narwhales
Hosp.                    AoW
Raven.                 Remnant
Chaos.                 HoC
Seamen storm.     Acre
                           Beserks
                           RoR
                           3rd RL

It seems as if it is closer to 60%...... In your favor.

I really feel bad about this mental duel because it seems as though your unarmed.

you forgot eu faction coalition(fallen partener), apostate(merc), (deserter), conquistadore, and some other that i always forget about . Anyways canuck no matter what fcc will be always the underdog. Same things against hosp...hosp had 30 merc against 51 fcc merc and well fcc was the underdog(they were using lamelar vest(hosp), while fcc was using heavy yasham(FULL PLATE) .Dam now i know how kesh feel when he post.I FEEL LIKE THIS.....TROLOLOLOLOLOL

[Jack1]

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Wow, yeah youa re pretty unmanned - the narwhals - 1 man faction -bob hasnt played in months and the 3 guys left in unicorns - yeah man that should definitely be counted and makes us 60%.

Chaos, MB, Fidlgb, Occitan, Chevalieres all share one ts (thats almost 60% of the active na players).  I think you are not smart enough to realize that just listing a bunch of clan names doesn't equal player base -all the factions you listed are medium to large factions on the left - most of the ones on the right are rather small or nonexistent.  Also, you forgot astralis and mb on your side - helps get you to the 80% of the merc pool in na so that you an gangbang HOC and clap yourselves on the back about your e-peen as the "underdogs" with 3x as many mercs to choose from while HOC struggles to fill a roster and you only ever ride around in 3x loomed plate and warhorses thinking how pro you are with your k/ds,

Just look at the rosters and you see how 80% of the na factions are all working together

You either need to learn to count(see above response) or need to learn to read your own writing so I don't have to bicker with a seemingly 5 year old.

Now that you change your argument to number of players...  Isn't there always a faction/collaboration who is outnumbered? What about when you where tying to while chaos but choked? I didn't see you hold off much as the larger group in that instance.

P.S. never doubt my math, I'm never incorrect.

[Matey]

These forums are so depressing lately. 90% of posters are frisians who just bandwagon with each other and against anything kesh or anyone else they disagree with says. This is the worst drama of any war we have been in; it isn't entertaining or worth responding most of the time. It's like 10 keshs vs 1.