0.3.0.1 Winners and Losers

[Canuck]

Why nerf the broad short sword so much? I don't think it was that much of a problem.

[Tydeus]

Losers:
Most 0 slot sword got nerfed by 1 swing, 1 stab or both.  Broad Short Sword also loses speed. (See post)
Side Sword.  Speed dropped 2.  Was probably OP before.
Steel Pick nerfed again, speed dropped 1.
Swiss Halberd weight dropped .5 to lower weapon stun. (This is actually a major buff to effectiveness)
Throwing knives now take 1 Throwing, but are now more accurate and 0 slot. (They actually have the same effective accuracy, regardless of the number changing)

Falchion:
  Speed 96 > 97
Short Arming Sword:
  Swing 29c > 28c
  Thrust 29p > 28p
Wakizashi:
  Swing 28c > 29c
Nordic Short War Sword:
  Swing 31c > 30c
Broad Short Sword:
  Thrust 28p > 27p
  Speed 102 > 100
Italian Falchion:
  Slots 1 > 0
Side Sword:
  Speed 101 > 99
Spathion:
  Thrust 25 > 26(2 thrust for 1 speed compared to the KAS with this)

That's the 1h sword changes, which indicate that only a few(the most used 0 slot weapons which were honestly, poorly balanced with the rest of the 1h pool) weapons were nerfed. The important thing to note about the BSS, is that the swing damage stayed unchanged.

[Lt_Anders]

Italian Falchion OP as shit. 34C with no slots and a thrust....Like, what?

Not to mention it's cheap as shit now.

weapon length: 70
weight: 1
difficulty: 11
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 70
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
slots: 0

[San]

Maybe it's 29-32 cut that's UP? With 6PS and 33 cut, it takes 3-5 hits to kill anyone at full health, even with 163 wpf. Most of the axes outdamage and outreach that with very little speed difference. It's also completely beaten by grosse messer. 101 speed seems like a lot, but with 70 length, you're still liable to get spammed anyways, since unlike blunt/pierce weapons, hitting at bad points with a short cut weapon won't cause much damage.

[Corsair831]

i lost big time, my side sword got nerfed by 2 speed (which makes it utterly worthless) lol

[Penguin]

Now I can stop kicking myself for accidentally buying about 1000 spathovoklions in strat on accident before the price change!

[Grumbs]

About the Halbard -.05 weight thing "This is actually a major buff to effectiveness" comment, I could see this was intended as a buff to turn speed, but it was just comical to me that we are chucked a scrap like that after the other things tweaked in the patch. Halberd has been trash tier for a long time now, not sure a small weight change will alter that.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

0 slot Italian Falchion.....


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Last week there was an offer up for 150k + italian falcion for a short broad sword... wish I'd taken that now!!!!!!!

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Falchion:
  Speed 96 > 97
Short Arming Sword:
  Swing 29c > 28c
  Thrust 29p > 28p
Wakizashi:
  Swing 28c > 29c
Nordic Short War Sword:
  Swing 31c > 30c
Broad Short Sword:
  Thrust 28p > 27p
  Speed 102 > 100
Italian Falchion:
  Slots 1 > 0
Side Sword:
  Speed 101 > 99
Spathion:
  Thrust 25 > 26(2 thrust for 1 speed compared to the KAS with this)

That's the 1h sword changes, which indicate that only a few(the most used 0 slot weapons which were honestly, poorly balanced with the rest of the 1h pool) weapons were nerfed. The important thing to note about the BSS, is that the swing damage stayed unchanged.

The BSS change was minor and I'd say for the best. It held a stupid position as the "king" of side arms. All I can say is I wish I had a potato peeler!

[Gristle]

Masterwork Bolts lost this patch, as the price was doubled with nothing gained.

[Oggrinsky]

You missed this beauty:

Urist: - added HA skill malus to xbow and removed it from throwing

Thanks to whomever was involved in making this happen! My prayers have been answered!

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

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• Steel Bolts                                    | old                            | new                           |

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| gold                                               | 2563                           | 5843                          |
| thrust damage                                      | 6 pierce                       | 8 pierce                      |
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I see what you did there...

Is this a play to make the crossbow more viable by making an arb rig insanely expensive?

[Apsod]

Everyone is whining over the Spathovaklion, but in my eyes it is just a well balanced 1h mace now.

If you compare it to the Warhammer it has 2 extra speed and 10 extra length, but does 4 less blunt and does not have a thrust option, it is also lighter which gives it less knockdown chance.

Before, the Spathovaklion was bad and now it is a goodish weapon, but I`m still sticking to my Warhammer.

[FrugFrug]

i lost big time, my side sword got nerfed by 2 speed (which makes it udderly worthless) lol

Hue.

[HarryCrumb]

Everyone is whining over the Spathovaklion, but in my eyes it is just a well balanced 1h mace now.

If you compare it to the Warhammer it has 2 extra speed and 10 extra length, but does 4 less blunt and does not have a thrust option, it is also lighter which gives it less knockdown chance.

Before, the Spathovaklion was bad and now it is a goodish weapon, but I`m still sticking to my Warhammer.

people thrust with a warhammer? wtf?

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Falchion:
  Speed 96 > 97
Short Arming Sword:
  Swing 29c > 28c
  Thrust 29p > 28p
Wakizashi:
  Swing 28c > 29c
Nordic Short War Sword:
  Swing 31c > 30c
Broad Short Sword:
  Thrust 28p > 27p
  Speed 102 > 100
Italian Falchion:
  Slots 1 > 0
Side Sword:
  Speed 101 > 99
Spathion:
  Thrust 25 > 26(2 thrust for 1 speed compared to the KAS with this)

That's the 1h sword changes, which indicate that only a few(the most used 0 slot weapons which were honestly, poorly balanced with the rest of the 1h pool) weapons were nerfed. The important thing to note about the BSS, is that the swing damage stayed unchanged.

Why use any of those 0 slots over the Italian Falchion? The BSS and Side Sword are useless now