Dark Souls II

[Gravoth_iii]

Sorry I am not boosting it with cat pics and 4chan stories I claim happened to me.

Yep l2forum

[Molly]

Not trying to stir shit up here but it doesn't seem to be all that great considering your own posts here.

When you read all the posts, it seems that the baseline is more like "Yea, well, I do have fun at times and overall it's an enjoyable game. Still, I am rather disappointed." and that coming from die hard fans of Dark Souls 1.

Tell me when I am wrong but that is what I get out of all the posts since release. Honestly curious.

[Gravoth_iii]

The combat is very good imo, its hard to find games with such enjoyable combat. I just feel its wrong to bash the one thing this game has over pretty much any other to date. What this game has done wrong compared to 1 is the atmosphere, and level design. But also somewhat makes up for that with new multiplayer covenant stuff like the belltower and ratacombs which are great fun, pvp invasions are really fun too only that invasion orbs are a pain to get. Duels are ok, but too much shit is being abused atm which is kind of a turnoff, but regular invasions dont have this.

[IR_Kuoin]

Did around 1.3 hours of arena to farm some cracked eyes since I'm not ng+ so it was kinda fun but it got a lot of "tryhards". But the real fun was when I was going 1v3 and 1v2 in normal invasions.

[Kafein]

Not trying to stir shit up here but it doesn't seem to be all that great considering your own posts here.

When you read all the posts, it seems that the baseline is more like "Yea, well, I do have fun at times and overall it's an enjoyable game. Still, I am rather disappointed." and that coming from die hard fans of Dark Souls 1.

Tell me when I am wrong but that is what I get out of all the posts since release. Honestly curious.

Disappointing doesn't mean bad. To be honest I'm personally not very disappointed either. I did not expect more than Dark Souls and while inferior to the previous Souls games, design in Dark Souls 2 is still top tier. I am extremely far from feeling sorry for my purchase.

[Vibe]

Not trying to stir shit up here but it doesn't seem to be all that great considering your own posts here.

When you read all the posts, it seems that the baseline is more like "Yea, well, I do have fun at times and overall it's an enjoyable game. Still, I am rather disappointed." and that coming from die hard fans of Dark Souls 1.

Tell me when I am wrong but that is what I get out of all the posts since release. Honestly curious.

I have not a single complaint really, it's an awesome game. As opposed to Gravoth, I prefer the level design of Dark Souls 2. I wasn't a diehard DS fan though, but I did play it through. Sure there's some silly stuff but I'm enjoying it just as much as Dark Souls 1.

[Nightmare798]

I like how this game has shitbox buttons all over it.

Yeah the DS1 port was half assed, so we do exact same thing with DS2 and mebbe it will sell better. That is like definition of insanity. Dear mother of god, playing this after far cry 3 is akin to showering while someone flushes the toilet. And honestly, they need to hire some people to tell them how to create intuitive and fair combat system.

Awesome...yeah.

[Gravoth_iii]

I have not a single complaint really, it's an awesome game. As opposed to Gravoth, I prefer the level design of Dark Souls 2. I wasn't a diehard DS fan though, but I did play it through. Sure there's some silly stuff but I'm enjoying it just as much as Dark Souls 1.

Most of the stuff that amazes me is things that are only noticed over multiple playthroughs and videos. Such as shortcuts that can skip entire areas, seeing a boss/boss area far when there is still a good distance to it (centipede demon in lost izalith, moonlight butterfly etc). And bonfire placements are weird and very common in 2, unlike in 1 where they were fewer but reasonable with shortcuts.

I like how this game has shitbox buttons all over it.

Yeah the DS1 port was half assed, so we do exact same thing with DS2 and mebbe it will sell better. That is like definition of insanity. Dear mother of god, playing this after far cry 3 is akin to showering while someone flushes the toilet. And honestly, they need to hire some people to tell them how to create intuitive and fair combat system.

Awesome...yeah.

Scrublord confirmed

[Tot.]

When you read all the posts, it seems that the baseline is more like "Yea, well, I do have fun at times and overall it's an enjoyable game. Still, I am rather disappointed." and that coming from die hard fans of Dark Souls 1.

Tell me when I am wrong but that is what I get out of all the posts since release. Honestly curious.

Its not as good as it could have been but its still way ahead of everything else in similar veins.

Also, Nightmare, the fact you suck at the game doesnt make it bad.

[Molly]

Disappointing doesn't mean bad. To be honest I'm personally not very disappointed either. I did not expect more than Dark Souls and while inferior to the previous Souls games, design in Dark Souls 2 is still top tier. I am extremely far from feeling sorry for my purchase.

I didn't mean disappointing as bad. It seems more like you guys might have expected more of Dark Souls 2 than it delivered. Like there was barely any progress which doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Maybe the Batman games are somewhat comparable. The first one was really awesome, had a lot of fresh ideas and nice, intelligent mechanics with a huge amount of atmosphere. The 2nd game changed a few things, kept the good stuff but barely improved on anything. A great game without real progress, stronger in some, weaker in few aspects.

That's what I take out of it. 

[Vibe]

I didn't mean disappointing as bad. It seems more like you guys might have expected more of Dark Souls 2 than it delivered. Like there was barely any progress which doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Maybe the Batman games are somewhat comparable. The first one was really awesome, had a lot of fresh ideas and nice, intelligent mechanics with a huge amount of atmosphere. The 2nd game changed a few things, kept the good stuff but barely improved on anything. A great game without real progress, stronger in some, weaker in few aspects.

That's what I take out of it.

Kind of like that yes. Well the PC port is slightly better, but still very porty.

[Kafein]

I think DkS2 PC is a better game than DkS1 PC due to the port.

I didn't mean disappointing as bad. It seems more like you guys might have expected more of Dark Souls 2 than it delivered. Like there was barely any progress which doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Maybe the Batman games are somewhat comparable. The first one was really awesome, had a lot of fresh ideas and nice, intelligent mechanics with a huge amount of atmosphere. The 2nd game changed a few things, kept the good stuff but barely improved on anything. A great game without real progress, stronger in some, weaker in few aspects.

That's what I take out of it. 

I can't find that many aspects in which DkS 2 is stronger to be honest, although there are many where it tries to and fails, which is a good thing anyway. It's mostly mechanical things like the upgrade system, durability management and somewhat better balanced and diverse classes (I guess). And of course the graphics and other technical things. The game also regressed mechanically too.
For example, in the two previous games you had one bloodstain. Now if you fail at one boss then die some place else then come back, your bloodstain will still be there. Or at least I very clearly remember the game doing that, and it's silly.
You suffer zero penalty for abandoning and joining covenants repeatedly. That's silly, but it's arguable that this is a workaround to a greater evil because the game is so obscure when it comes to covenants.
The return of farmable healing items. Seriously what the fuck. Good thing that you can't really use lifegems in combat but still, it's silly.
Fast travel. It's silly and has actively encouraged lazy design.

Edit : grammar national-socialism in action

[Fredom]

After loosing around 100k souls to the boss in Iron Keep I finally killed him today ( thanks again kuoiN) and (thanks kuoiN again) got the Large Club +6 now with 41 Str which ends in atm 470 damage 
So much to do... Wanted to play The Gutter with a rl friend but we forgot it because we wanted to get  soke souls to level up haha

[Nightmare798]

Its not as good as it could have been but its still way ahead of everything else in similar veins.

Also, Nightmare, the fact you suck at the game doesnt make it bad.

I dont suck at it. In fact I currently farm those 400 soul giants without even taking a scratch. It just pisses me of how horribly clunky the combat is.  And tbh those xbox buttons are really a joke.

(to the fanboys) Stick your fanboyism and take a look at the goddamn game. Sure, it has some good things, but it still feels like busted port. Compared to the port of The last remnant, this port is shit.

[Gravoth_iii]

I dont suck at it. In fact I currently farm those 400 soul giants without even taking a scratch. It just pisses me of how horribly clunky the combat is.  And tbh those xbox buttons are really a joke.

(to the fanboys) Stick your fanboyism and take a look at the goddamn game. Sure, it has some good things, but it still feels like busted port. Compared to the port of The last remnant, this port is shit.

The only thing i dont like about the port is the buttons showing xbox layouts, but even those arent really too bad as im using ps3 controller which is very similar anyways. How is the combat clunky btw?