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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2013, 01:45:56 pm »
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The goal of Strategus battles shouldnt be to deprive your enemies of players, but to have full roster both sides and have the gear/tactics/strategy win the day rather than lack of merc support.

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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2013, 07:06:35 pm »
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2013, 09:12:48 pm »
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He spawned at one of our spawning flag. And few others on left and right side. Is it not enough reason? And you know it's still happens, again and again and again. And no one really wants to do something with this bug.
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2013, 09:21:20 pm »
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Yeah that is a very annoying bug.  I hate it when I'm cavalry and it happens to me...where I'll spawn right in the thicket of enemies
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2013, 10:45:04 pm »
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Yeah that is a very annoying bug.  I hate it when I'm cavalry and it happens to me...where I'll spawn right in the thicket of enemies

Lol, vast majority of the time it favors cavalry - you spawn right near their flags so yu cna cap them later or hit people from behind as soon as they spawn.  On the very rare occasion it spawns you poorly you just have to not spawn on a horse for a little bit and lo and behold you dont spawn there.  You have control over your spawn, the enemy side does not.  It really is a horrible bug for flag caps, like cav isnt easy enough already in an open field map.
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2013, 11:03:12 pm »
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Switching to another flag at spawn will put you in another "random" spawn point as cavalry on the map I've found.  Or yeah just jumping off the horse will put you back at your flags for spawn.

I do think it's worse for the people who aren't on horse (as you say, can cap flags or attack enemies who aren't expecting it).  But I'm selfish and was only thinking how it affects me. 
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2013, 03:09:35 am »
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Some smart commanders often place 2 or 3 infantry with pikes and heavy weapons near a cav spawn so that they are spawn raped.

I didnt know you could "control" your spawn as cav by dismounting/spawning once without a horse, so I felt that it was indeed a very bad bug for cavs when against knowledgeable commanders.

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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2013, 07:54:53 am »
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Some smart commanders often place 2 or 3 infantry with pikes and heavy weapons near a cav spawn so that they are spawn raped.

I didnt know you could "control" your spawn as cav by dismounting/spawning once without a horse, so I felt that it was indeed a very bad bug for cavs when against knowledgeable commanders.
If U a cav u can check all flags to find a "usefull one" then with donkeys u can even TP big group of infantry  :P fixdatshitpls or some day drz guys on donkeys will cap ur flags XD
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2013, 01:52:07 pm »
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If U a cav u can check all flags to find a "usefull one" then with donkeys u can even TP big group of infantry  :P fixdatshitpls or some day drz guys on donkeys will cap ur flags XD

Its very nice to see that there is still some unexplored tactics in strategus  :P

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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2013, 05:57:34 pm »
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Shik and I might have fixed the cav spawn next patch. Only chadz knows though if it works because strat is untestable for us mortals.

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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2013, 06:20:11 pm »
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us mortals.

I think you underestimate your semi-god status of "Developer"  :wink:

[edit] Also, I can volunteer (and I guess some other guys from... uhm... some other clans can do the same) to find any bugs or exploits in Strat. You know you do not have to rely on amateurs having pros at hand  :D :D :D 
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2013, 06:57:44 pm »
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The problem is that we cannot check if the fix works until a patch comes out because we don't have any way of testing strat internally (lol)

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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2013, 07:04:50 pm »
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Some smart commanders often place 2 or 3 infantry with pikes and heavy weapons near a cav spawn so that they are spawn raped.

I didnt know you could "control" your spawn as cav by dismounting/spawning once without a horse, so I felt that it was indeed a very bad bug for cavs when against knowledgeable commanders.

In one of the battles over the weekend, there was a cav spawn right on top of our flags.  After a while where 3-4 guys were trying to stop the cav from wrecking our forward spawn from behind (and often missing), we threw spikes right in front of the spawn and left a pair of guards to kill the cav as they turned around.  Very quickly, we stopped seeing cav use that spawn.
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2013, 07:22:26 pm »
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Some smart commanders often place 2 or 3 infantry with pikes and heavy weapons near a cav spawn so that they are spawn raped.

I didnt know you could "control" your spawn as cav by dismounting/spawning once without a horse, so I felt that it was indeed a very bad bug for cavs when against knowledgeable commanders.

AFAIK, that doesn't do anything.  If you spawn on a horse again (without changing the flag you're set to spawn at, or without that flag being captured) the next time you spawn you'll go back to the same cavalry spawn you were at before.

The only thing I know that fixes it (besides potentially rejoining), is to set your spawn to another flag at your spawn, and you'll get cycled to another cavalry spawn (or if you're lucky sometimes you spawn at that flag in your spawn).
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Re: Collection of Strategus Issues - the thread
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 03:02:17 am »
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Strat issue: have a full server fighting 1600 vs 1700, it's about half way through, tickets are about 1:1 ratio of K:D and devs decide to restart the servers...

There's so many times throughout the day where strategus battles are not happening, or it's not large strat battles, and they restart during a large one.

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