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Offline Teeth

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Ban The_Great_Dictator
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:06:16 pm »
He spawned twice in one round. I just couldn't fit both deaths in one log screen, but the top one shows the start of the round, where The_Great_Dictator was getting ganked and managed to quickly disconnect just before dying, then later in the round I met him again. The bottom of the first screen and the top of the second screen being the same hopefully proves that it is the same round.

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Re: Ban The_Great_Dictator
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 02:27:55 pm »
запретить его полностью! отставить тактику нечестную!  :P
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Re: Ban The_Great_Dictator
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 02:53:42 pm »
The_Great_Dictator banned for exploiting (same as several previous bans) for two (2) days.

I shall be looking into this ban a little more though as I have some question I wish to clear up.

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Re: Ban The_Great_Dictator
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 05:21:12 pm »
As I said I would, I have done some more research into this case (among replying to a couple of messages pertaining to this case) and checked the logs and it has cleared a lot up, i.e. made things clearer that I there is no hard evidence of rule breaking.

The_Great_Dictator has been unbanned due to reasonable doubt.

I took a gander at the logs to construct a timeline and as such, it has confirmed my suspicions and provided enough reasonable doubt that I have unbanned the player, I cannot base speculation for banning a player on another players word, no matter who they are.

I've also chatted to two admins about this case as well, one of whom would issue the ban & another of whom had similar reservations of "not knowing what caused the disconnect" as any number of stories could be created for why. (Don't take that the wrong way Teeth, I'm not saying that I don't believe what you've said, I'm merely saying that I cannot back that up with hard evidence, as a rule of thumb I wouldn't take anyone's word for it unless they were an admin, in which case they'd handle the thread!)

At any rate, I believe I made a mistake in banning in the first place before clearing my suspicions fully and despite the ban record of the player, I can't ban on speculation as to what happened. It is against the rules to die, and respawn in the first 60 seconds, but it is not against the rules to disconnect for a legitimate reason, such as a loss of connection or spawning without equipment which are both viable things to happen given the screenshots.

My apologies,

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