2handers Role In Strat Battles

[YnScN]

Hello guys,

I've respecced to 2hand 2-3 weeks ago and i keep struggling in strategus battles. I'm going to describe my problems with positioning and i want to discuss pros/cons of being a 2hander, and how can i improve my game.

First of all, in strat battles i noticed that armies are always formed in a similar scheme. Shielders are on the front to absorb random damage and pikers are right behind them to stab enemies. We can visualize it with this.

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At first, I have tried atacking in front of them, but i failed because before my swings reached the enemy their pikes could hit me and even if i moved forward while i was making a down-block, their shielders just could hit me with an upper swing. I died most of the time without getting a kill.

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Later i decided to atack them from their behind just when two armies were so close to each other. I have waited until i saw a breaking point, then i moved their behind so i could backstab them. With this tactic i made more kills per death, but it was risky since i got backstabbed a lot.

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Eventually i found another useful tactic for me. I wasnt participating the main fight but i was trying to pull some enemies to kill with the help of my teammates. We usually stayed together on the flanks and tried to pull enemies from the main fight. Once we pulled them we killed them easily because we outnumbered them. But this tactic didnt work on some battles because enemy had a dominant cavalry power.

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In conclusion, i wanted to describe what kind of difficulties i encountered when i was trying to fight as a 2hand in strat battles and which tactics were useful for me. I believe that i've improved but i want your opinions and thoughts on how i can improve my game.

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No teamhit jokes are allowed 

[Erzengel]

No teamhit jokes are allowed 

Then I am not interested in the topic at all. 

[karasu]

I think Cooties can give you a very good insight on the role of a 2h in strat battles. 

[Tzar]

Get a great maul and smash the turtles.

Ohh wait nwm... forgot it was nerfed to peices... 

[Grumbs]

I see a lot of Great Mauls crushing through people on strat, you could try one of those. I don't think fights are that organised that you will always meet pikers and shielders btw, and you can try to fight at the sides rather than at the front. Try to pick a weapon based on what your team needs. Sometimes you might want an axe to break shields, sometimes maul, sometimes a dueling weapon

[Miwiw]

2h are either meant to fight on the flanks, help out pikemen in danger or if you are a real hero you can jump into the direct fight if you are able to block enough hits by both 1h and pikemen.

Strat battles are usually fought by 1h/poles/ranged and cav though. There shouldn't be that many 2h heroes.

[Latvian]

get riding skill and ride horse, thats what i do, but when on foot try to team up with some good piker and jsut downblock untill you can get clear hit. Dont go straight to enemy but use S key hero tactics (you are 2hander after all ).Always stay with your team, listen to comands so you dont find yourself alone vs 25000 enemies while your team is retreating/ regrouping. Thats about all you should know about being 2h hero.

[_GTX_]

well 2h is not that usefull in strat, as they said... its mostly a fight between other roles. Cooties mostly just charge down alone and try to get objectives.

[Falka]

Cooties mostly just charge down alone

Cooties had amazing ability to jump into biggest clusterfuck, slash through dozens of enemies and survive  Shame he doesn't play anymore, he was one of a few players who I loved to watch 

[Smoothrich]

Try to isolate pikemen and facehug spam them so they can't do 360 jump bullshit. Try to approach from the flanks (while avoiding cav) and start carving into people. Always try to get around or behind the blob, or else try to go directly into the middle of the blob and surround yourself by enemies to cause chaos. Pike support will end up piking their teammates if you are fast enough.

Be first up ladders in sieges with mauls. Killsteal as much as possible.

I play much better either bum rushing into the mass of enemies and fighting from there, or staking out an open piece of ground on a flank and killing all cav/other 2hand heroes/stray enemies that step up to it. No one left to brawl with, odds are the lines are clashing and you can flank everyone from behind and kill some tunnel visioned pikers or shielders.

Don't get sucked into the line battle game, its garbage for 2handers. Easily the worst class for it.

[Imperious]

2h is too easy to take some kill get a morning star and just swing swing swing and u got 3 kill to 1 dead. also if u know get block this kills will be 5 to 1 dead.

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if u wasnt participating the main battle u are doing wrong.. commander need u with main group

[Ikarus]

As long as I´m not cav, I often run with the shielder/piker group and wait until some crazy dude manages to get through our shieldwall behind our pikers: then it´s my turn 
I also watch the pikers group back during battles so their butts don´t get hurt.

But that´s all just some supportive stuff, 2h don´t really have a role in strat (unless they can wear a great maul, then they´re the crushthrough-squad)

[Rebelyell]

spawnrape, 2h is best for that

[Malaclypse]

Keep your head down, swing left and right.

[Paul]

Ok, it's time to buff 2h. The hardship they have to go through is unacceptable.