ARMA 3 Beta

[Artyem]

Since the Beta is now out and the Alpha is gone for good I guess the original point of this thread is defunct.

So, discuss the ARMA 3 Beta now.

My views on ARMA 3:

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I played ARMA 2 a fucking lot.  My friends and I did a lot of ACE 2 co-op missions (made by myself and others in the group), and I have to say that I was disappointed but not surprised when the alpha for ARMA 3 just didn't cut it for us.  I was hoping, however, that the Beta would fix those issues and it would become playable.  My hopes became true, and ARMA 3 has proven so far to be pretty god damned fun.

Initially, I noticed that the combat mechanics have changed greatly.  In ARMA 2 you could be somewhat careless and do fine, just as long as you had buddies to patch you up when you got shot to shit.  However, ARMA 3 is a whole lot more relentless.

The changes made from the Alpha to the Beta certainly seem to have greatly effected the gun play and combat mechanics.  Cover is much more essential and timing your shots while trying to maintain some stamina to steady your aim really does bring a whole new level to the gameplay itself.  My friend Deltah failed to take proper cover in a fire fight near the start of a mission and was sorely disappointed when he had to sit most of it out because he got a bullet lodged in his brain.  Which brings up another topic:  the AI are much better at not being totally fucking retarded.  They seem to be capable of flanking and using suppression, but only when they're in a range of about 300 - 400 meters.  Engaging them at 500+ meters and they pretty much stand there and take your bullets like they don't even notice getting shot.  Regardless, I enjoy the combat much more now that there's some more depth put into it.  Optics that actually enhance your vision prove to be quite useful now, since they can be effectively used in CQB and at a range.

I love the new Independents, since one of my primary issues with ARMA 3 is the futuristic element in itself.  The Greek Army has a more modern day look to them, since the NATO forces look like ordinary futuristic soldiers (I dislike the new rifle BLUFOR units use) and the OPFOR units look like Cobra soldiers from G.I. Joe.  I guess their look and weapons seem a bit more realistic to me, as do they to the guys I play with.

I haven't really fucked with PVP yet, but the Co-op is great, I just wish I could find a decent revive script or a more involved medical system (hopefully a version of ACE or something similar will come out soon).  Being able to heal yourself without sitting up is pretty amazing too, since I can pull a bullet out of my liver while laying behind cover.  Unlike ARMA 2 where you'd have to stand up and expose yourself to enemy fire.

From what I did play in PVP, I noticed that the Wasteland servers are very laggy, which is seemingly due to the large amount of shit being spawned and kept on the map at once.  This was initially an issue with ARMA 2 as well, but over time it was fixed and Wasteland could run like a charm.  I expect it won't be too long before we have the same with ARMA 3.  What I mostly look forward to getting into though is Island Life and Warfare.  Insurgency would be pretty sweet on this new engine, too.

[Tibe]

Is it any good?

[Artyem]

Is it any good?

Honestly, I haven't played the Beta enough to give too much judgement but so far it's much better.

As you would expect, I guess.

I really like the 3d scopes instead of staring through a hole in a piece of cardboard.

[Leshma]

Performance wise, is it any better?

[Artyem]

Performance wise, is it any better?

Yeah, actually, it seems like it runs much smoother on higher settings.  I ran it on standard with a few things on low back in the Alpha but now i'm on standard - high and it seems to run much better.

[Xant]

Performance wise, is it any better?

Not really. Still shitty as fuck FPS even though it looks like a game from 2006-2008.

I've got 8mb ram, i7-3770K at 4.5ghz and GTX 680 with 4000 MB memory.... still 5-15 FPS. In other words, makes aiming well impossible.

[CaveSquirrel]

I've got 8mb ram,

Get moaar.

Anyways, its actually worse for me now, specially when looking to hills and so on.

[Vodner]

Does the beta have that JVM-based scripting engine they were working on, or are we still stuck with SQF?

[Artyem]

Not really. Still shitty as fuck FPS even though it looks like a game from 2006-2008.

I've got 8mb ram, i7-3770K at 4.5ghz and GTX 680 with 4000 MB memory.... still 5-15 FPS. In other words, makes aiming well impossible.

Not sure what your issue is, my computer is somewhat equal and I run it at 40+ FPS unless I'm on a wasteland server or on a mission with a huge amount of shit on the map.

[Senni__Ti]

About the same as the alpha performance wise, possibly a little worse.

Running it without AA admittedly (was 4x in alpha), but still 30-60fps (highest settings).

Will try it in some firefights, see what happens.

[Xant]

Not sure what your issue is, my computer is somewhat equal and I run it at 40+ FPS unless I'm on a wasteland server or on a mission with a huge amount of shit on the map.

I'm playing on highest settings (still looks like crap).

[Artyem]

I'm playing on highest settings (still looks like crap).

I play on medium - high with all post-processing turned off and I think it looks and runs great, sorry if it's not your cup of tea but that doesn't call for a temper tantrum.  Considering you probably only played Day Z in ARMA 2 I can see why you wouldn't like ARMA 3.

[Tor!]

Xant always has been a narrow minded person.

[Xant]

I play on medium - high with all post-processing turned off and I think it looks and runs great, sorry if it's not your cup of tea but that doesn't call for a temper tantrum.  Considering you probably only played Day Z in ARMA 2 I can see why you wouldn't like ARMA 3.

How is saying it looks like crap, which it does, a temper tantrum? It looks nowhere near as good as other modern games, and it certainly doesn't look good enough to justify the FPS. And way to make ASSumptions about things you don't know anything about.

[TheAppleSauceMan]

Idk, I played it on max and thought it looked damn beautiful. I'd say it definitely looks as good as modern games, did we play a different game or something?