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Wakizashi buff?
« on: June 13, 2013, 12:09:35 pm »
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I'd suggest increasing cut damage to 30.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 03:49:01 pm »
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I suggest lowering the broad short swords cut to 28-29, and either leave the Waki alone or buff it to 29 cut, not more.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 06:39:58 pm »
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The problem with nerfing broad short sword is that:

Short Arming Sword
weapon length: 81
weight: 1
difficulty: 7
speed rating: 103
weapon length: 81
thrust damage: 29 pierce
swing damage: 29 cut
slots: 0

Becomes a much better weapon in comparison.

I vote for a Waki buff instead.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2013, 02:46:12 pm »
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idd the waki needs a buff
1. no1 is using it
2. its stats suck like hell
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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 05:40:46 pm »
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The only thing in my opinion that makes it a bit weaker is the lack of length.  Otherwise, it seems reasonable to me.  I may agree with a slight (+1) damage boost to the Waki, but nothing else.

The weapon is supposed to be really fast, not hit hard.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 07:14:21 pm »
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The only thing in my opinion that makes it a bit weaker is the lack of length.  Otherwise, it seems reasonable to me.

Wakizashi

costs 1500 more
16 units less in length
+2 speed
-7 pierce damage
half the str requirement
0.3 less weight


What are you getting in return over choosing a wakizashi over a broad short sword exactly?
Other than for rp/style/4 strength build I don't see a reason to ever choose this weapon.


IMO buff it with a decrease in price, it's stats are fine otherwise.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 07:17:44 pm »
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IMO buff it with a decrease in price, it's stats are fine otherwise.

I can agree with this too.  The biggest advantage is the two speed with makes this an amazing weapon if you face hug and nudge (Excluding the nudge kick chain)

I feel the weapon is fine, although just like any other fast 1h.  You have to hit people 23412354 times so people do not use it much.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 07:47:52 pm »
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Having a wakizashi is like having a nice ring or amulet, it is only to look good   :wink:
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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2013, 06:32:04 pm »
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Seems reasonable. Below 30 base cut is borderline unviable without a great stab.

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2013, 02:32:59 am »
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Both weapons were tweaked a while ago, as well as many other one handed weapons. Just waiting on an item patch now.
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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2013, 03:29:15 am »
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Wakizashi

costs 1500 more
16 units less in length
+2 speed
-7 pierce damage
half the str requirement
0.3 less weight


What are you getting in return over choosing a wakizashi over a broad short sword exactly?
Other than for rp/style/4 strength build I don't see a reason to ever choose this weapon.


IMO buff it with a decrease in price, it's stats are fine otherwise.

you are getting this build :
Code: [Select]
Level:           30

Strength:         4
Agility:         39

Attr to skill:    0
Skill to attr:   16

Ironflash:        0
Power Strike:     1
Shield:           0
Athletics:       13
Riding:           0
Horse Archery:    0
Power Draw:       0
Power Throw:      0
Weapon Master:    1

One Handed:     116
Two Handed:       1
Polearm:          1
Archery:          1
Crossbow:         1
Throwing:         1
using cRPG NewGen calc

any other built is useless
So the new response to ranged ragers is not "get a shield", it is "learn to chamber ranged nub!"
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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2013, 12:21:28 pm »
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Italian Falchion
Type:One handed weapon
Requirement:11 strength
Weight:1
Slots:1
Upkeep:314 gold
Shop price:4,490 gold
Value:2,245 gold
Speed:101
Length:70
Thrust:21 pierce
Swing:34 cut


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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2013, 05:25:56 pm »
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Italian Falchion
Type:One handed weapon
Requirement:11 strength
Weight:1
Slots:1
Upkeep:314 gold
Shop price:4,490 gold
Value:2,245 gold
Speed:101
Length:70
Thrust:21 pierce
Swing:34 cut


GG balance team

I think they did a good job.  As what was said earlier, it just needs a decrease in price.  Besides, we shall wait and see what tweaks were made to weapons soon enough

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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2013, 11:29:07 pm »
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Knife
112 speed (!!!)
44 length
16 pierce
28 cut
.2 weight
upkeep 15 gold

wakizashi

104 speed
70 length
21 pierce
28 cut
1 weight
upkeep 528 gold
4 str requirement (lol)

I have both of these loomed to +3, and almost never touch the wakizashi. The difference between 44 and 70 length doesn't even matter. You have shorter range than anyone else in the server, and you will have to get right in someone's face to hit them. The knife is faster by almost 10 speed (104 is upper end fast 1H swords, 112 speed is insanity). The only reason I use the wakizashi is because you can manually block with it (and therefore nudge without losing all defense), unlike the cheap 0 slot daggers and knives.

The knife has upkeep so low it is basically free. The wakizashi is one of the most expensive 1H in the game. I feel that a price reduction is all the poor thing needs. Then it would be more in-line with the other 0 slot 1H swords like the short broad sword, short nordic war sword, etc.
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Re: Wakizashi buff?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2013, 01:37:20 am »
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What's so funny about a 4 str requirement? Anyone who thinks a Wakizashi with 3 str wouldn't be OP, is clueless. Absolutely clueless.
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