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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2013, 09:03:55 am »
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This stuff is getting old Panos :wink:

I would actually say the same if I was ranged to, and 90% of my gametime was, PEW run PEW run PEW, and only melee when I was the last guy or when I was cornered, and please Bagge, do tell me, apart from my logical request to add Power Draw to xbow, have you ever seen me "whining" about ranged being OP?? NO YOU HAVEN`T, because I find it normal to die from ranged, and, I sucked it up, and I spent 3 points to have a shield, and the gameplay for me is a lot better now.

Have you ever seen me "whining" about 1h being OP?? Apart from their high chance of knockdown, I never said anything else about the class, because I find it normal that short weapons are faster than my polearm, I don`t even mind the uber crazy abusable, nudge + kick combination that lot of 1handers use, I sucked it up, and forced myself to use kicks.

No matter how much time I spend on duel server trying to find the slightest thing that will give me a small advantage as a polearmer against 2handers, I come up always to a dead end, fuck , a couple  days ago, I was dueling GTX,  he was hugging me, and he used a lolstab, I COULD HEAR THE BOUNCE SOUND, but not only he wasn`t stunned, but he could land a new full stab!!!

Please I beg you, teach me a way to counter 2handers as a polearmer and I promise to shut the fuck up.

And if he did the same with a 27/12 build, he would've killed some 4-5 guys more, because of the extra damage and taking some 2-3 more hits to die. If you get spammed, it is not because of "OMG AGILITY", it is because you suck at returning attacks, you'd do no better with an inversed build, probably actually a lot worse.

Yes yes, I suck at this game, maybe I should switch to 2hander like yourslef and be a part of the masterrace.

Panos, you claim he runs insanely fast in his heavy armor, try seeing him naked, armor really slows people down, and if a guy got an agi build armor won't help much from being 2-3 hit.

Zlisch, everyone can run fast naked, even a guy with 2 athletics can run fast with no armour at all, so your argument is invalid, and also most agi players, have some IF, so chances are he will need 4-5 hits, because of the IF + Heavy armour combination.

^ only scrubs die to spam

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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2013, 10:49:24 am »
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My main is a 27/12 1h/pole hybrid in not too heavy armor.
Besides, for those with reading comprehension problems, i am not defending 2h. A high-str 2h build in heavy loomed armour is the easiest thing in the game right now.

a couple  days ago, I was dueling GTX,  he was hugging me, and he used a lolstab, I COULD HEAR THE BOUNCE SOUND, but not only he wasn`t stunned, but he could land a new full stab!!!
He used a glitch, he didn't really stab you the first time, he actually feinted, giving you that bounce sound. Yeah, it's dumb.

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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2013, 11:00:53 am »
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Phase uses light kuyak Panos, thats why he is fast
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2013, 11:05:19 am »
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Phase uses light kuyak Panos, thats why he is fast

the guy on the video is Phase, the last couple of days he plays with the BCoP
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:45 am »
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Something is wrong when gothic plate is only 15 difficulty.
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2013, 11:07:48 am »
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Give me 1 nerf ticket and everything will be fixed   :twisted:
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2013, 11:13:07 am »
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i agree that str req could be raised a bit,  but taking phase as example isnt quite valid.  he is one of the guys knowing his footwork and is able to spam and do good damage because of that.
most people wouldnt do as good with an agi build im sure
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2013, 11:22:07 am »
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There is simply a difference between '2h good' and good. It pains me to see though that good players like Phase and Decky Smile give up playing skillfully and cleanly for constant dirty spamming. It pains me even more to see 2h scrubs that barely know how to play, get good scores by random turning and swinging. Even at the most horrible angles 2h still does fine damage. Proper footwork and swinging is not required. In the hands of good players, 2h is balanced, in the hands of mediocre players, 2h is OP compared to their performance with other classes.

The strength requirements for armour have always been to low, the ability to use heavier armour is barely a consideration for me when I make a character build and I think it should be.

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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2013, 11:23:34 am »
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I know I am right when Teeth agrees with me  :mrgreen:
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2013, 11:32:25 am »
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inb4 Teeth denying agreement with Panos...
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2013, 11:49:26 am »
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Teeth doesn't agree with Panos - Panos agrees with Teeth  :P
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2013, 12:13:20 pm »
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Edit: To stay on topic, my main is 24/15 with 123wpf in 2h and 100wpf in polearms. 2h is much easier to play, almost never bounce with unloomed weapons. With mw polearms and the same footwork I perform way worse than with 2h.

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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2013, 12:15:15 pm »
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Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2013, 12:24:23 pm »
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Panos stop trying to slow the game down. Just because Strength isnt always the best choice doesnt mean agi needs a nerf. Depending on playstyles, most of the time str is the better choice, you become tankier and you get the damage. Agi 2h's never one-hit me but those with more str do from time to time.
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Re: Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2013, 12:28:03 pm »
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Panos stop trying to slow the game down. Just because Strength isnt always the best choice doesnt mean agi needs a nerf. Depending on playstyles, most of the time str is the better choice, you become tankier and you get the damage. Agi 2h's never one-hit me but those with more str do from time to time.

But if they increase the armour dif, the game will become faster, because the agiwhores won`t be able to wear plates , i`m not asking to nerf anything.
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