Can you increase the armour difficulty ?? VIDEO ADDED!

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

The upper tier of plate should be 18 and the real top tier should be 21 imo. Not 15 and 16, I've thought that for a long time. It's stupid that the heavy gauntlets require 18 but that gothic plate is only 15 :S

From blue coat of plate to guard armour should be 15 from red corz to Heavy Yawshan should be 18 and from there on up it should be 21.

But leave the heavy gauntlets at 18 because that would fuck too many people up shifting those.

It's time to shake the market up again.

Just my accurate and correct opinion mind you.

[Panos]

Lets do some maths

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19.3 KGR


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3.3 X 2 = 6.6 KGR


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0.7 X 3 = 2.1 KGR



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3.8 KGR


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2.5 KGR

And now :

19.3 + 6.6 + 2.1 + 3.8 + 2.5 = 34.3 KGR

AND NOW, TAKE A LOOK OUR 2H HERO, HOW FAST HE CAN BE.

This is a quick video that I captured 10 minutes ago, endless spamming, fast 360 turns, and ALL THAT WITH THE PROTECTION OF HIS PLATE..

Bonus : Fuck, he knows that he can outspam everything, he does not even bother to block...

Bitches, please keep on trying to convince me that 2H aint an OP class.

[Matey]

just another curious thing about 2H masterrace... the MURICA clan tournie has 40k gold limit on gear you can spawn with, loomed items cost quite a bit more than unloomed. The funny thing is that it is easy for 2H heroes to still run around in heavy armour with their favourite 2h, meanwhile shielders, cav and xbow are pretty much fucked. While that is only applicable to that tournie it does make you think that maybe the cost of armour is too low. I of course am biased as hell against people who can survive more than 3 hits while being able to 1 shot me.

[Panos]

just another curious thing about 2H masterrace... the MURICA clan tournie has 40k gold limit on gear you can spawn with, loomed items cost quite a bit more than unloomed. The funny thing is that it is easy for 2H heroes to still run around in heavy armour with their favourite 2h, meanwhile shielders, cav and xbow are pretty much fucked. While that is only applicable to that tournie it does make you think that maybe the cost of armour is too low. I of course am biased as hell against people who can survive more than 3 hits while being able to 1 shot me.

You are a fool and a noob for daring saying something against the 2h master race!

Do you even believe what you wrote?? 

[Okkam]

buff armor effectivity (moderate)
nerf movement speed in medium\heavy armor (a lot)

[Malaclypse]

The highest Strength requirement for a set of armor is 16. That should be at LEAST as high as the highest requirement for a melee weapon IMO (20 STR), if not higher. Gotta agree with FRANK.

[bagge]

This stuff is getting old Panos

[Mammonist]

Classes that are not 2h are just around to feed the superior master race.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Panos, you claim he runs insanely fast in his heavy armor, try seeing him naked, armor really slows people down, and if a guy got an agi build armor won't help much from being 2-3 hit.

[[ptx]]

And if he did the same with a 27/12 build, he would've killed some 4-5 guys more, because of the extra damage and taking some 2-3 more hits to die. If you get spammed, it is not because of "OMG AGILITY", it is because you suck at returning attacks, you'd do no better with an inversed build, probably actually a lot worse.

[Joker86]

Didn't he need three strikes for that one archer he caught from behind?

It's not like that archers was heavily armoured or that archers in general tend to have a lot of HP...


If anything, I think all armour values should be upped a bit, even increasing exponentially the closer you com to the top tier. But that's my opinion.

[Vibe]

And if he did the same with a 27/12 build, he would've killed some 4-5 guys more, because of the extra damage and taking some 2-3 more hits to die. If you get spammed, it is not because of "OMG AGILITY", it is because you suck at returning attacks, you'd do no better with an inversed build, probably actually a lot worse.

^ only scrubs die to spam

and

This stuff is getting old Panos

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Didn't he need three strikes for that one archer he caught from behind?

It's not like that archers was heavily armoured or that archers in general tend to have a lot of HP...


If anything, I think all armour values should be upped a bit, even increasing exponentially the closer you com to the top tier. But that's my opinion.

People already survive way to many hits if they aren't 100% naked.

[Joker86]

People already survive way to many hits if they aren't 100% naked.

Then I would be for upping the overall damage somehow.

I just want more noticeable differences between the armour classes. For my personal taste the difference between no armour/cloth and leather armour is too little noticeable, the difference between leather and light mail is, the difference between light and heavy mail, heavy mail and partial plate/lamellar, and finally the difference of partial plate/lamellar to full plate. You know what I mean?

And I think compared to heavy mail or partial plate full plate is not doing good enough to justify the drastically higher costs in upkeep. It's just not as cost effective, although in theory all items should be at exactly the same cost efficiency.

[Canuck]

If anything, I think all armour values should be upped a bit, even increasing exponentially the closer you com to the top tier. But that's my opinion.

I know you posted different thoughts afterwards, but I've just gotta say, come fight in an NA strat battle with a fully geared FCC or Occitan army (which unfortunately aren't around currently) and see if you still think armour should be increased!