lance angle, once more :D

[Torben]

Sooooooo I was wondering.... after horses maneuverability,  lethality and survivability, and after lance damage being nerfed again and again,  after couching with thrustable lances not being a real option anymore,  after battlefield awareness of footsoldiers having increased a lot,  after hoplites and pikes having appeared everywhere,  HX  having popped up like little annoying zerglings (seriously,  HA used to be a problem,  now they arent even worthy of a mentioning poor bastards :/),  after 1 and 2h cav having gained the experience and skill to block down...

could we,  for the timeframe of one patch,  restore old lance angle and just see how it does these days?

pretty please?
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[Joker86]

I don't mind. The problems with cav don't origin from the lance angle, so it wouldn't make things worse for infantry. But cav vs. cav fights could become easier again. Don't know if this means they become more interesting. Guess not.

[Araxiel]

1h cavs on heavy horse like me would be pwned by lancer cavs without having any chance to hit back.

[Fuma Kotaro]

Would be fucking annoying but i had to + you because of that meow *.* still we can give it a try

[Thomek]

Yes because you struggle so much with your K:D ratio and cav is so difficult Torben..

[Gravoth_iii]

Cav is still pretty OP though, 1h cav is tearing through infantry like crazy. Constantly getting oneshot by them. I guess lance cav is rare now though, but i still think they are good as they are. Horses are still super tanky and shields on horseback blocks 90% of your body, and even the horses body. I'd like to see horses becoming weaker if cav is to get a buff.

Also make stakes 1 slot, damage nerf on them was enough, we should atleast be able to spam them ;)

[Torben]

I agree that we are at a fragile state of balance atm,  and that the larger lance angle might disrupt the current state.  but I suspect it would have a greatly lesser impact then most of you think. 

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

1h cavs on heavy horse like me would be pwned by lancer cavs without having any chance to hit back.

Not true. I swash buckle on native all the time and pwnpwnpwnpwn!

[CrazyCracka420]

Cav is still pretty OP though, 1h cav is tearing through infantry like crazy. Constantly getting oneshot by them. I guess lance cav is rare now though, but i still think they are good as they are. Horses are still super tanky and shields on horseback blocks 90% of your body, and even the horses body. I'd like to see horses becoming weaker if cav is to get a buff.

Also make stakes 1 slot, damage nerf on them was enough, we should atleast be able to spam them ;)

Horses are super tanky?  Depending on the terrain destrier and lighter horses can't run over more than one person without coming to a complete stop.  Hell even just running over one person sometimes slows the horse down enough to get hit at least once by the guy you ran over.  And you want to see horses become weaker?  Please...

I honestly don't think the full lance angle is necessary (the native one is too much).  If anything I'd suggest a secondary grip on the lance (overhand grip) that allows you to stab farther back and to the sides of your horse (wouldn't be useful riding at higher speeds, would be mainly for dealing with infantry behind your horse when you get reared or the measly charge damage makes your horse come to a complete stop because something that weighs 1/5th of your horse made it come to a stop). 

[rufio]

I agree that we are at a fragile state of balance atm,  and that the larger lance angle might disrupt the current state.  but I suspect it would have a greatly lesser impact then most of you think.

back to the good old days when i was lancer cav on arabian, and could perma stab people while dancing my horsey in eights, but then again indeed whole skill ceiling of community has risen so i + you.

[Turboflex]

Cav is so hard !!

[Gurnisson]

+1

Played (Heavy) Lance cavalry
Played Great Lance cavalry
Played 1h Cavalry with Arabian Cavalry Sword and Paramerion

You buy some length with the lances, but compared to 1h cav they're just complete garbage. Needs some love.

[Perverz]

Yes because you struggle so much with your K:D ratio and cav is so difficult Torben..

spamer speaking...... get moar athl.
hypocrite cunt

[BlueKnight]

+1 for the cat picture

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Also I would suggest increasing current lance angle to like ~40 degrees each side instead of old omni-angle.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

I want this, but I'm being selfish, because I'm lancer cav.

What this would mean:
1) Much more cav vs cav, and much better cav vs cav for lancers.
2) Easier for lancer cav to go one vs one with infantry.
3) A buff for maneuverable horses (Arabian).

I don't see cav getting more OP than it always has been (nerf it good). I see something like this allowing the more skilled lancer cav to rise out from the rest of the pack a bit more. Right now, lancers best bet for kills is sneaking up on someone and getting the kill with a straight-line lancing run.

More angles for attacking means a much better time at slower speeds, and would go nicely with more maneuverable horses like the Arabian or desert thing.