What you going to heirloom?

[Dravic]

But you see, I use different weapons for different situations.

Axe to break shields, Steel Pick to pierce armored opponents, Elite Scimitar when I fight agile, light armored opponents (extra length kills them)

That's why I don't want to chose a one weapon now, because I use every weapon +/- 33% of time, depending on situation.

[Lansamur]

Again:
MW NCS
MW Huscarl

Not decided for either MW Bow or Lordly Armor.

[Magikarp]

But you see, I use different weapons for different situations.

Axe to break shields, Steel Pick to pierce armored opponents, Elite Scimitar when I fight agile, light armored opponents (extra length kills them)

That's why I don't want to chose a one weapon now, because I use every weapon +/- 33% of time, depending on situation.

Out of those weapons, I'd say the elite scimitar is the weapon youll want to use most. It's the most versatile weapon out of the bunch.

Now help me, heirloom any of the three horses or my heavy lance?

[Keshian]

Help me, guys.

I am a Steel Shielder, 12/24 str/agi build.

I was planning to heirloom Steel Shield, but I am not sure if it's worth it :/

Well I am sure I won't heirloom any weapon ANYMORE unless it's Sniper Crossbow (the only weapons I can play with and heirlooming which didn't get nerfed), but since last patch, I am not "feeling" the crossbow shoting flow anymore (= can't hit a shit) + rain nerfs my crossbow almost always when I am playing with it (bad luck). Why not 1handers for my shielder? Because I use many different weapons: Steel Pick, Elite Scimitar, Broad 1h Battle Axe + Steel shield every round. And weapons' heirlooms are not worth it anymore...

On the other hand, back to the Steel Shield:

And according to this http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,965.msg12265.html#msg12265, these are prepatch heirloom stats:

Steel Shield
body armor: 69
difficulty: 6
hit points: 225
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Thick Steel Shield
body armor: 71
difficulty: 6
hit points: 272
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Reinforced Steel Shield
body armor: 73
difficulty: 6
hit points: 288
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Masterpiece Steel Shield
body armor: 75
difficulty: 6
hit points: 329
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

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According to website info, these are current heirloom stats:

Steel Shield
body armor: 74
difficulty: 6
hit points: 236
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Thick Steel Shield
body armor: 76
difficulty: 6
hit points: 273
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Reinforced Steel Shield
body armor: 79
difficulty: 6
hit points: 299
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Masterpiece Steel Shield
body armor: 82
difficulty: 6
hit points: 331
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31


Hmm... Its basic version AND its heirloomed versions are better than prepatch. Temptating...

BTW, I heard it is always good to heirloom gloves (Kesh said it), but I am often switching armor from light (blue tunic, blue hood, etc.) to heavy (Kuyak, Wisby Gauntlets, etc.) so I don't think heirlooming an armor is a good choice for me.

Steel Shield? Risk an armor? Risk a weapon?

PS I have gen 2, so it is hard decision for me - I can chose only 1 item to heirloom for 1gen bonus!

With only 1 heirloom wouldnt recommend a melee weapon as for most that only gives +1 damage (though if you are planning on retiring 2 more times and use that 1 item a lot without getting bored then maybe melee as third heirloom is decent).  I don't know about you, but using the non-heirloomed steel shield was still nearly unbreakable for me, maybe doing a faster, wider shield, which by heirlooming comes closer to the same level of durability as the steel shield?  Also, light xbow, triple heirloomed is pretty good with pierce damage, it may take an extra shot or 2 to kill compared to masterwork sniper xbow but it reloads very fast for people with wpf.  I like the mail gauntlets for being a good balance between cost, weight nerf (especially for archery) and protection, but if you change your hand armors a lot don't  do it. 

In your case I would seriously consider the plate covered shield (14 speed faster than the steel shield but same coverage, heirlooming would get it closer to same durability) or the huscarl (overused) and heavy board shield as they have much wider area of protection and with heirlooming have very good durability with about 20 speed faster than steel shield.  Don't know about you, but i actually would do the heavy round shield as its faster than all those, good area of coverage, 1 slot shield and with triple heirlooming very good durability.

[Keshian]

Out of those weapons, I'd say the elite scimitar is the weapon youll want to use most. It's the most versatile weapon out of the bunch.

Now help me, heirloom any of the three horses or my heavy lance?

I would recommend waiting for next hotfix/patch to see what they do to horses before committing your heirloom points as there will not  be another respec.  For a cav guy I would pick my favorite horse as the heirloom boost is probably the best in game right now for horses.  I don't know your style of play, but I previously did the cataphract (think heavily armored arabian horse with triple heirlooming) for horse archering and maneuverability/survivability and the courser for lancing/anti-cav/couching.  Also, how much money do you make too is a factor, wearing light armor do the better horses, expensive armor and weapons go arabian instead of cataphract or courser depending on playstyle.

[Dravic]

Hmm, Kesh, finally someone who has something interesting to say.

Well, I won't heirloom anything without good (+/- 10 from Steel Shield's one) resistance, because I have high shield skill to make high shield's resistance even higher ;)

I am sure I won't heirloom Plate Covered Round Shield, because, well, it looks ugly and it is much worse than Steel Shield. I am sure, that with such stats:

Masterpiece Steel Shield
body armor: 82
difficulty: 6
hit points: 331
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

even with 8 shield skill it will last LOOONG.

And I agree, that heirlooming weapons as 2gen character is senseless, I don't have time to grind it to MW in nearest 3 months ;)

Steel Shield, then? I love to keep my shield up

[Vicious666]

big decisions ahead everyone, wondering what your choosing. seems to me mele weapon hierlooms generally suck now, and armour is probably more worth it. of course shield, horse and bow/xbow hierlooms are still good if you use those

always loomed my armor

i am gonna loom

helmet
gauntlets
chest
boots
shield and  weapon

[Dravic]

always loomed my armor

i am gonna loom

helmet
gauntlets
chest
boots
shield and  weapon

So, basically, you are going to loom everything, as always?

Hmm Vicious, you had a Masterpiece Steel Shield - tell me, is it worth heirlooming? Especially with 8 shield skill?

[Vicious666]

So, basically, you are going to loom everything, as always?

Hmm Vicious, you had a Masterpiece Steel Shield - tell me, is it worth heirlooming? Especially with 8 shield skill?

a lot, imho steel shield will be probably best item i will loom, followed by armor   

basically i lose items i not where using anyway.. like my ms eslavona,   the  mameluk champion etc.

[Keshian]

Hmm, Kesh, finally someone who has something interesting to say.

Well, I won't heirloom anything without good (+/- 10 from Steel Shield's one) resistance, because I have high shield skill to make high shield's resistance even higher ;)

I am sure I won't heirloom Plate Covered Round Shield, because, well, it looks ugly and it is much worse than Steel Shield. I am sure, that with such stats:

Masterpiece Steel Shield
body armor: 82
difficulty: 6
hit points: 331
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

even with 8 shield skill it will last LOOONG.

And I agree, that heirlooming weapons as 2gen character is senseless, I don't have time to grind it to MW in nearest 3 months ;)

Steel Shield, then? I love to keep my shield up

In the NA there was a guy witht he name ShieldSpam with 10 shield skill, I have a feeling your shield would never get broken with triple heirloom and 8 shield skill except by the rare guy with triple heirloomed great long axe 10 powerstrike swinging 10 times or more at your shield.  I do feel that heavy board shield has almost the same durability just by its sheer mass of hitpoints (600 with unheirloomed version) and a wider area of coverage with faster speed, might be worth trying out before you set your heirlooms.

[Magikarp]

I would recommend waiting for next hotfix/patch to see what they do to horses before committing your heirloom points as there will not  be another respec.  For a cav guy I would pick my favorite horse as the heirloom boost is probably the best in game right now for horses.  I don't know your style of play, but I previously did the cataphract (think heavily armored arabian horse with triple heirlooming) for horse archering and maneuverability/survivability and the courser for lancing/anti-cav/couching.  Also, how much money do you make too is a factor, wearing light armor do the better horses, expensive armor and weapons go arabian instead of cataphract or courser depending on playstyle.

IMo the Sarranid is the best horse atm. But The Armoured horses are very interesting at Champion stage.

[Hirlok]

Longbow, warbow, bodkins... and since my melee choices were taken from me... booohooohooo... I WILL heirloom my woolen cap. YES.

[Torp]

Hmmm... as a cav hiding behind a heater shield msot of the time, gonig on foot on some maps and when i pplay with inf from my clan - should i loom armor (Light Kuyak) or Glaive? (3*looming)

[Dravic]

In the NA there was a guy witht he name ShieldSpam with 10 shield skill, I have a feeling your shield would never get broken with triple heirloom and 8 shield skill except by the rare guy with triple heirloomed great long axe 10 powerstrike swinging 10 times or more at your shield.  I do feel that heavy board shield has almost the same durability just by its sheer mass of hitpoints (600 with unheirloomed version) and a wider area of coverage with faster speed, might be worth trying out before you set your heirlooms.

Tried it some time ago (actually, prepatch).

It doesn't have good resistance, so shield skill is not giving too much with such a shield. It's hp is important vs axe, yes, but, unlike steel shield (to which weapons without bonus against shields do almost no harm), board shield doesn't reduce to 1dmg/hit normal weapons dmg

Vicious, I waited for your post. Now I am sure, I will heirloom Steel Shield ;)

[Magikarp]

Hmmm... as a cav hiding behind a heater shield msot of the time, gonig on foot on some maps and when i pplay with inf from my clan - should i loom armor (Light Kuyak) or Glaive? (3*looming)

If that is your only choice, go glaive, no point in going for the armour at all.