Liberty vs. security

[Gorath]

other than the crpgwarden spyprogram idea.

It never ceases to amaze me the number of people willing to put spyware on their machine in the name of e-security...

[Vicious666]

It never ceases to amaze me the number of people willing to put spyware on their machine in the name of e-security...

something to hide? 

[Gorath]

something to hide? 

And that's exactly the response that keeps letting the government destroy more and more of our personal freedom's each year.   
“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security". ~  Benjamin Franklin

I don't have anything to hide, except an extensive collection of filthy filthy dirty fist squirting chain-bang bukkake porn (and I'm not hiding that from anyone but my kid, I'm more than happy to share it with the world).  However it's the principle of the matter that's wrong.  The same mindset you have is why the cell-phone companies have been able to track your every movement for years now "Because it helps with 'security'.  It keeps you safer in case of accident or kidnapping."  And yet in the news this last week everyone was all shocked when an article was posted about this.  "They can track me?  Ohnoes!"  Anyways, gonna get all pissed off an derailed about people's stupidity on this subject of voluntarily giving up freedoms so I'll stop and just go to work now.

[Vicious666]

And that's exactly the response that keeps letting the government destroy more and more of our personal freedom's each year.   
“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security". ~  Benjamin Franklin

i find that amusing considering it comes from an american, america = false liberty , as country you cant say that you have freedom expecial considering that you have only 2  political side, that are pretty much identical ? and all other are forbidden ?

dont come to make freedom lesson here.

is a game , and i played on counter strike for years with punk-buster, not blaming anyone about spyng my pc or my life, you now who complained about? only ppl who got something to hide,  or you think chadz  will spy your life? yeah becouse is very interesting right? and you work for CIA .

[Gorath]

i find that amusing considering it comes from an american, america = false liberty , as country you cant say that you have freedom expecial considering that you have only 2  political side, that are pretty much identical ? and all other are forbidden ?

dont come to make freedom lesson here.

is a game , and i played on counter strike for years with punk-buster, not blaming anyone about spyng my pc or my life, you now who complained about? only ppl who got something to hide,  or you think chadz  will spy your life? yeah becouse is very interesting right? and you work for CIA .

Done with you, you're obviously just an idiot/bigot.

[Murmillus_Prime]

i find that amusing considering it comes from an american, america = false liberty , as country you cant say that you have freedom expecial considering that you have only 2  political side, that are pretty much identical ? and all other are forbidden ?

dont come to make freedom lesson here.

is a game , and i played on counter strike for years with punk-buster, not blaming anyone about spyng my pc or my life, you now who complained about? only ppl who got something to hide,  or you think chadz  will spy your life? yeah becouse is very interesting right? and you work for CIA .

America, a country that 'legally' murders tens of thousands of civilians in the name of justice, for 3000 souls? No American life is worth more than 1 Afghan civilian life, or Iraqi civilian life, but the American government seem to think so. They'll send machines of mass destruction to murder civilians in the hopes of killing a handful of terrorists.. Disgusts me.

[v/onMega]

America, a country that 'legally' murders tens of thousands of civilians in the name of justice, for 3000 souls? No American life is worth more than 1 Afghan civilian life, or Iraqi civilian life, but the American government seem to think so. They'll send machines of mass destruction to murder civilians in the hopes of killing a handful of terrorists.. Disgusts me.

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[kastellan]

And that's exactly the response that keeps letting the government destroy more and more of our personal freedom's each year.   
“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security". ~  Benjamin Franklin

I don't have anything to hide, except an extensive collection of filthy filthy dirty fist squirting chain-bang bukkake porn (and I'm not hiding that from anyone but my kid, I'm more than happy to share it with the world).  However it's the principle of the matter that's wrong.  The same mindset you have is why the cell-phone companies have been able to track your every movement for years now "Because it helps with 'security'.  It keeps you safer in case of accident or kidnapping."  And yet in the news this last week everyone was all shocked when an article was posted about this.  "They can track me?  Ohnoes!"  Anyways, gonna get all pissed off an derailed about people's stupidity on this subject of voluntarily giving up freedoms so I'll stop and just go to work now.

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Done with you, you're obviously just an idiot/bigot.

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America, a country that 'legally' murders tens of thousands of civilians in the name of justice, for 3000 souls? No American life is worth more than 1 Afghan civilian life, or Iraqi civilian life, but the American government seem to think so. They'll send machines of mass destruction to murder civilians in the hopes of killing a handful of terrorists.. Disgusts me.

this ist true but doesn't mean that ALL americans are stupid government's ass-licking fucks. Just most of 'em. And obvious Gorath has a wider political and social horizon than most of you.

[Murmillus_Prime]

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this ist true but doesn't mean that ALL americans are stupid government's ass-licking fucks. Just most of 'em. And obvious Gorath has a wider political and social horizon than most of you.

I agree with your first point as it's the same in the UK and probably most countries, your second point is warped bullshit.

[Seawied]

And that's exactly the response that keeps letting the government destroy more and more of our personal freedom's each year.   
“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security". ~  Benjamin Franklin

I don't have anything to hide, except an extensive collection of filthy filthy dirty fist squirting chain-bang bukkake porn (and I'm not hiding that from anyone but my kid, I'm more than happy to share it with the world).  However it's the principle of the matter that's wrong.  The same mindset you have is why the cell-phone companies have been able to track your every movement for years now "Because it helps with 'security'.  It keeps you safer in case of accident or kidnapping."  And yet in the news this last week everyone was all shocked when an article was posted about this.  "They can track me?  Ohnoes!"  Anyways, gonna get all pissed off an derailed about people's stupidity on this subject of voluntarily giving up freedoms so I'll stop and just go to work now.

I'm against government tracking, RealID, and many of the other forms of authoritarian control which people are practically begging for these days, but an anti-cheat program is pretty far from authorizing the government to monitor our every move.

If an anti-cheat program can effectively catch macros and hack programs, while maintaining the important conditions of A) not squandering a computer's resources, and B) not affecting the computer's registry in a negative way, both short and long term, then I'm all for it. I've noticed more and more no-name people come into the servers recently who are ungodly pro at manual blocking, and things are getting more and more fishy. I think we've begun to enter the reality that hacks are going to be a constant and increasingly more common part of the game. An anti-cheat program might be a way to deter them from becoming even more wide-spread.