Book vs ebooks

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

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I didn't know it was that hard on you buddy, let me know if you ever need a few Euros.

[Panos]

Hey, that's not fair! You can't just turn from "QQ no money, send money, German money is best money" to "it's not THAT bad" and make me look bad

you`re right.


I haven`t eaten in days, I walk around with tattered shoes and ragged clothes, please gibe drachmas

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[Oberyn]

you`re right.


I haven`t eaten in days, I walk around with tattered shoes and ragged clothes, please gibe drachmas

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So the euro crisis is more onerous to Greece than the Ottoman and chocolate chip cookie occupations? Interesting perspective.

[Armpit_Sweat]

I love reading books end never got used to that e-shit, it hurts my eyes.

 
this.
 
Saving eyes. I also write on pages sometimes. Marking interesting parts for later reviewing, etc.
Besides, i take pride in having them on my shelf Every book i own - is a rare gem!
Out of few hundred carefully selected books i have read - my all time personal favorite is this:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Quiet_Flows_the_Don
 
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Would not bother with English translation though, you would need to be pure Russian, like myself, in order to appreciate the beauty Reading it in a e-book format would damage your eyes, and be insulting to The Genius of Mr. Sholohov!
 
But, if it's Harry Potter you are reading, e-book might be good enough That kind of stuff shouldn't be on paper anyways.
 
I am very snobbish with literature. Very.

[Leshma]

This explains so much.

I prefer reading encyclopedias (before internet I used to rent expensive ones from local book store) or researching a subject that interests me. I've read some novels but don't prefer them. I avoid poetry at any cost.

When I want to have some fun, I try to gain limited knowledge (basic idea) of a certain subject. I very much enjoy doing that. Reading something a semi educated person (known in our society as a writer or novelist) wrote on paper which don't consists of actual facts is waste of time imho.

But if I have to choose, novels I did like are anything from Jorge Luis Borges (I read everything that has been published), The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov and The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway. However, I do feel shame because I haven't read anything written by Arthur C. Clarke.

[Lars]

In my opinion the printed edition of a book is the better one, because it's more "natural", less stressful for the eyes, there is no "light" in the background of the page, and (imo) it's easier to keep your mind focused on what you are reading.  I find the digital format   tiring to the vision (actually much much  more tiring than playing videogames), and i want to keep my "perfect" vision for the rest of my life( if it's possible).
Moreover,  whenever you need to go to the next page, you either have to press a button or scroll the page (with your mouse wheel/directional arrows/finger whatever), which is not hard at all, but it's easy to misclick or scroll too much and lose the thread.

Iphones&co screens are  too small, you have to change  page too often and that's quite annoying imo

I have never tried to read from a Kindle or other E-book readers, i would like to try them and see if they are really better than pc/iphones screens.

[Osiris]

I prefer reading encyclopedias (before internet I used to rent expensive ones from local book store) or researching a subject that interests me. I've read some novels but don't prefer them. I avoid poetry at any cost.

When I want to have some fun, I try to gain limited knowledge (basic idea) of a certain subject. I very much enjoy doing that. Reading something a semi educated person (known in our society as a writer or novelist) wrote on paper which don't consists of actual facts is waste of time imho.

But if I have to choose, novels I did like are anything from Jorge Luis Borges (I read everything that has been published), The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov and The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway. However, I do feel shame because I haven't read anything written by Arthur C. Clarke.

Authors are semi-educated? How did you figure that out?
If reading something that doesn't consist of facts is a waste of time then what about tv, films games etc? By that logic why ever play crpg O.o

[Leshma]

I play games because of gameplay. watch TV only to hear news (prefer it over internet news portals). Listen to radio because it offers random choice of good music. Read books to learn something new and useful.

Watching movies, TV shows, reading novels, playing games with a good story and bad everything else, is something I rarely do.

Books about facts mean much more to me than popular literature.

[Prpavi]

I prefer reading encyclopedias (before internet I used to rent expensive ones from local book store) or researching a subject that interests me. I've read some novels but don't prefer them. I avoid poetry at any cost.

When I want to have some fun, I try to gain limited knowledge (basic idea) of a certain subject. I very much enjoy doing that. Reading something a semi educated person (known in our society as a writer or novelist) wrote on paper which don't consists of actual facts is waste of time imho.

But if I have to choose, novels I did like are anything from Jorge Luis Borges (I read everything that has been published), The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov and The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway. However, I do feel shame because I haven't read anything written by Arthur C. Clarke.

what are facts, isn't it all subjective anyways?

your "knowledge" comes from a brain of someone else, he decided to put that on paper, doesn't make it right though. just because majority of people find it to the the "truth" doesn't make it so. only you decide what resonates within you and accept the subjective truth the others serve you. as much as we would like to think we are free willed thinkers we are all severely influenced atleast on a subconcious level and much less original that we would like to believe. one mans truth is another mans consiracy bullcrap.

edit: this is not a knock or anything i also don't read novels and fiction i get that from games and movies.

[Leshma]

what are facts, isn't it all subjective anyways?

Not really. Let's say there's a person without any knowledge and he's thirsty and standing by the sea. Subjective fact (how you call it) would be if we say that salt water isn't dangerous for humans to drink. True fact is that salt water isn't healthy to drink. Fact has been proven in the past and that's why is called a fact.

[zagibu]

Leshma, the whole life is a waste of time. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Molly]

I like my books. Although I have to admit that I never even tried those e-ink readers. I can only imagine that it would lack something, even if it's just the feel and the movement to turn a page. There are certain things that are good as they are.

I love criminal novels, the British and Scandinavian ones especially. I don't like the majority of the American ones cuz they are a bit like the Hollywood movies... just too much most of the time. Not all of them, there are some really nice American ones too. I really like the rather slow pace and clear logic behind the European (British and Scandinavian) novels better than the blood, gore and pewpew of the American books.

And I am only talking about the reading I do for entertainment in my spare time. Reading something for work or uni, I don't mind working with pdf on a TFT-screen. I read daily before I go to bed for 30min up to 90min. I need that daily dose...

[Leshma]

Leshma, the whole life is a waste of time. Enjoy it while it lasts.

In a way, yes. I just said my personal opinion. You may like it or not.

[Prpavi]

Not really. Let's say there's a person without any knowledge and he's thirsty and standing by the sea. Subjective fact (how you call it) would be if we say that salt water isn't dangerous for humans to drink. True fact is that salt water isn't healthy to drink. Fact has been proven in the past and that's why is called a fact.

there is a lot less true knowledge in the world like you described in your example i mean the first hand one. the first people that got sick or died from salty water got that knowledge, then it got passed by generations,  controlled, manipulated, people added myths, the whole truth got watered down ( don't take my words literally this is an example but thats how it usually goes ). then the great modern man came with his science and explained it all ah aren't we grand! the academics are divided between themselves on every possible subject you can think of, what im saying there is never one truth one fact but several ones and it's on us to chose which one we will believe. ofc you won't drink salty water or jump from a roof trying to fly but people did that too and found their own truth, that is what we do in the end by reading books and seeking knowledge. you can read all the books in the world on a certain subject but not experiencing it you still have no real knowledge, only some one elses truth, knowledge, experience how ever you wanna call it.

[zagibu]

In a way, yes. I just said my personal opinion. You may like it or not.

Yes, I understand. A lot of people share your opinion. I don't. In fact, I like to keep my entertainment almost completely fictional, because I have enough of reality in my daily business.