Range Spam in Eu1

[CrazyCracka420]

Hurrdurr, can't fight in melee so I go ranged and maximize my ability to avoid fighting in melee. Bet you are on of those my old friends climbing every roof and mountain he can lay his eyes own. You simply can't balance classes when there are people so desperate to avoid half the gameplay of this game.

See the problem here? You don't like fighting melee because you get pwnd, so you avoid it. I don't like getting shot at because I get pwnd, can't avoid it. I think you should be forced to deal with melee the same way I am forced to deal with ranged.

How are you forced to deal with ranged?  Crying on the forums over and over with enough people that the dev's finally cave in and say "fuck it, I'm tired of the tears on the forums, let's nerf what all the whiney bitches are asking for, because they can't be arsed to adapt to the battlefield"

[Joker86]

Its not that I'm not trying to become better in the game, I just enjoy ranged the most. And guess what, I'm playing a game to enjoy my free time and nothing else. I have a 2h, polearmer, 1h/shielder, thrower, xbower and a cav character, all of them are lvl31/30, one of them close to 30. But ranged is simply the one thing I enjoy the most in this game, and one of the reasons is the fact that 90% of the 2h/polearmers (or lets say melee guys that dont use shields) are not able to adapt and keep charging ranged teams just to die.
The shitty part about this is that all these morons go to the forum afterwards and QQ and cry for nerfs, and they are listened to and the nerfs become true. And it will stay this way as long as there is anything close to a projectile in this game.

I agree on this. The players actually need to change, but from what I heard that's too much to be asked for. Most of them just want to play for relaxation, for the lulz, seek the challenge or are just braindead when playing. All of those behaviours prevent effective teamplay, because you need a good majority of a team to follow a certain plan to reach maximum efficiency. And no, "get a clan" or "play startegus" are no arguments, you CAN expect teamplay from players, and you CAN expect them to learn, know and follow certain behaviour patterns, because in other games it works as well.

Unless people don't change their mind, and get accustomed to certain bahaviours (e.g. connecting to the server and asking in chat what the plan is, looking where your teammates go, not where the enemy goes, keeping the own and the enemy team consistency in the back of your head as well as having a constant overview over the moving directions of the teams), we will always have massive balance problems, as the performance vary drastically, depending on the extend of teamplay used.

So bottom line: we will always have balance problems, until the last cRPG server is shut down.

[Cyber]

Yesterday we dueled like 10 times, you were playing as a 2h, and I beat you like 8 times, god I knew I should take SS.

Sorry master Cyber, please forgive me if a humble peasant like me irritated you.

I would like to see you actually try to adress what I say for once instead of posting some sarcastic remark.

Also I tryed to show you how just duelling safely and not trying much is the optimal way to play vs you and each time I said i'm trying to beat you I did, for some crazy reason I thought you might actually understand that, anyway if you're interested I can repeat that.

[Ronin]

When the Last Bow is nerfed, the Last horse is crippled, and the Last xbow is broken, The 2h hero Will Realize That You Cannot eat your QQ.

[Teeth]

How are you forced to deal with ranged?  Crying on the forums over and over with enough people that the dev's finally cave in and say "fuck it, I'm tired of the tears on the forums, let's nerf what all the whiney bitches are asking for, because they can't be arsed to adapt to the battlefield"

Because they can attack from a 100 meters distance and I can attack from 1 meters distance, obviously they can attack me almost all the time. I tried to adapt, got a shield. Getting a shield does not help much.

[CrazyCracka420]

Ranged classes can attack people from a distance?

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It's amazing the difference a tiny bit of teamwork and coordination can make.  You can get steam rolled 3 rounds in a row, and then your team finally starts running around together and you steam roll the enemy team.  Or a group of 7 guys running around systematically taking out every small group of players they encounter.

There's so many variables involved here, that I think people complaining in a vacuum is just ridiculous.  Everything has strengths and weaknesses, and not just in a vacuum.  Those strengths and weaknesses can be magnified depending on the map you're playing, and what the enemy team is doing (as well as your own team).  If I'm dehorsed, sometimes I'll protect one of our better archers or crossbowers from horsemen or enemy ranged.  The effect that has on my team and that individual player, can sometimes vary greatly than if I had decided to mindlessly run at the enemy. 

[Sagar]

Thing is there is so many ranged, that is unplayable right now. And they do too much damage to heavy armors.
I understand that you guys (ranged) enjoyed to play a range and that is just fine - everyone shod play whatever class he want.
Thing is that I personally enjoy to play like heavy armored knight, but it is totally stupid that I die from 2 or 3 shots.
My light armor: 61  - die from 2 arrows or 1 bolt
My heavy armor: 79 - die from 3 arrows or 2 bolts

You guys enjoyed to play ranged - ok., but I don't have a chance to enjoy with my playstile.
And it is very hard to pierce (read almost impossible) plated medieval armor, especially Milanese with bow or crossbow.
How about buff heavy armors so ranged will need 20 projectiles to killed heavy armored knight - then we will see who will QQ on forum.
There is couple 0 requirement shields, but they are useless (they broke after 1 shot).

I say - don't nerf ranged, but give us something - buff armors or buff 0 slot shields.

[Panos]

I would like to see you actually try to adress what I say for once instead of posting some sarcastic remark.

Also I tryed to show you how just duelling safely and not trying much is the optimal way to play vs you and each time I said i'm trying to beat you I did, for some crazy reason I thought you might actually understand that, anyway if you're interested I can repeat that.

I already told you, we are gonna have our rematch. No need to worry about that, Ill hit you up.


For now, let me tell you a little story, some days ago, there was another hero like yourself, Antonio his name, 2h backpedal lolstab his game, he had the same attitude with you, arrogant and Mr. I know it all. He trash talked me, like the way you do, that I`m a noob and other shit like that.

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Our deal was first to 5 wins, but we never made it there because he RQ, as you can see, that arrogant prick, didnt even land a hit on me.

Indeed, I am a lot of things, but I also am a really stubborn fuck.

Soon enough, you`ll be the next Antonio.

For now, keep on bragging about how you win 5-0 against me, by hug left spam.

[Cyber]

I already told you, we are gonna have our rematch. No need to worry about that, Ill hit you up.


For now, let me tell you a little story, some days ago, there was another hero like yourself, Antonio his name, 2h backpedal lolstab his game, he had the same attitude with you, arrogant and Mr. I know it all. He trash talked me, like the way you do, that I`m a noob and other shit like that.

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Our deal was first to 5 wins, but we never made it there because he RQ, as you can see, that arrogant prick, didnt even land a hit on me.

Indeed, I am a lot of things, but I also am a really stubborn fuck.

Soon enough, you`ll be the next Antonio.

For now, keep on bragging about how you win 5-0 against me, by hug left spam.

How stupid do you have to be to make that post and want to be taken seriously? If I need to point out the reasoning behind that statement you're intelligence level is Panos.

Anyway not going to turn this into our e-peen thread, if we need to discuss something we can do that by PM in the future 

[Teeth]

Ranged classes can attack people from a distance?

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How are you forced to deal with ranged?

You ask me a dumb question and then you make fun of me when I bother to answer your dumb question. Turd.

[Panos]

How stupid do you have to be to make that post?

Anyway not going to turn this into our e-peen thread, if we need to discuss something we can do that by PM in the future 

Surely will do lad   

[Joker86]

Ranged classes can attack people from a distance?

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What Teeth wants to say is that infantry suffers from much more passive gameplay than archers or cav do. Most of the targets an infantryman attacks more or less agree to be attacked in melee. Most of the targets an archer attacks do not agree being shot at, and almost no player at all agrees to be targeted by cav.

The question of being able to choose your target or not is a very important one, because if you are allowed to choose your targets, you will of course pick the easier ones, but if you are targeted most of the time yourself by people who chose you as target for some reason (mostly because of being a rewarding target), without being able to choose your favourite targets yourself, things can get frustrating.

Cav can see someone in quite some distance, turining their back to them, and are able to attack him soon after. Archers can pick those players who stand still, walk in a straight line, don't have a shield and so on and can attack them immediately. Infantry can see those week archers, but has to close in first. They can't teleport to them, which would be like picking the target. Pikemen can't teleport in front of cav to stop their horse, and this is why pikemen are no real counter to cav.

I know this is the way things are, but it is also having an impact on the different perception the classes have during a battle. 

[Falka]

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I already told you, we are gonna have our rematch. No need to worry about that, Ill hit you up.


For now, let me tell you a little story, some days ago, there was another hero like yourself, Antonio his name, 2h backpedal lolstab his game, he had the same attitude with you, arrogant and Mr. I know it all. He trash talked me, like the way you do, that I`m a noob and other shit like that.

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Our deal was first to 5 wins, but we never made it there because he RQ, as you can see, that arrogant prick, didnt even land a hit on me.

Indeed, I am a lot of things, but I also am a really stubborn fuck.

Soon enough, you`ll be the next Antonio.

For now, keep on bragging about how you win 5-0 against me, by hug left spam.

Lulz, if you're serious now - and you sound like one - then you're an idiot 

[Panos]

Lulz, if you're serious now - and you sound like one - then you're an idiot 

Couldn`t care less.


Shutting the mouths of arrogant pricks, always feels good.

[Berserkadin]

Get over yourself, play and stop asking for nerf because you need one of these.

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