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Is London beheading a scam??
« on: May 25, 2013, 06:23:40 pm »
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 06:24:21 pm »
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London  beheading, eh.

Wut?
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 06:25:38 pm »
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London  beheading, eh.

Wut?

Don`t you watch the news??

a Nigerian killed a Brit soldier in the middle of the street for no apparent reason.


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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 06:26:30 pm »
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He has blood all over his pockets where he has wiped his hands several times and unlike video games/movies, blood doesn't necessarily splatter everywhere when you stab someone repeatedly. There is a huge pool of blood where the guy was hit by the car and then stabbed before being dragged into the middle of the street where there is a trail of blood shown in several photos and other videos.

No it's definitely not a scam. A horrific murder and no one deserves to die like that. The two men who did it are animals and represent no one but their own psychotic selves.

London  beheading, eh.

Wut?

Basically these two guys ran down a soldier in the street and proceeded to stab him repeatedly and attempt to behead him. If that wasn't shocking enough, what's really got people shaken up is the fact the main guy calmly hung around and addressed members of the public in a relatively normal tone of address for about 15 minutes until armed police turned up and he charged them with an old pistol which backfired, blew off his thumb and they were subsequently shot and are now in hospital under armed guard.

The worst part is they did it in the name of Islam. Which has caused a massive backlash against Muslims in the UK. Even though these two are utter nutters who in no way represent any Muslims other than those who have been used by extremist clerics.

Apparently two women tried to help the guy and see if he was alive. The guy who tried to behead him insisted he wasn't but they said they could still see he was alive. By the time the police and ambulances arrived though he was dead.

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As for the people facing the body. That can be described by one thing. Morbid fascination. The same reason everyone slows down and stares when they drive past a horrific car crash. The reason this guy was also filmed was because he threatened members of the public and insisted they film him. They wanted to be caught and they wanted it to be head line news.

O the other thing. Apparently most witnesses who hadn't seen the guy stab the soldier assumed it was a bad car crash and the guy lying in the road was someone who had been hit. That may explain why the women just keeps walking past, particularly as the guy with the knives and cleaver is facing away from her.
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 06:38:37 pm »
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I've have never seen such a clearly documented murder, if you think this is a scam then you probably do not believe anything ever. Time to wear a tin foil hat Panos. Easiest police case ever.

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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 06:45:12 pm »
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Oh, I completely missed this one.

I don't check news sites THAT often these days.

I don't think it's a scam really, who would get scammed, what would be the point, to give Islam a bad reputation?

Other than that, I think humanity is being dragged back by religion. Yes, I know people will bash me for this, but it is unnecessary, especially Islam's indoctrination.

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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 06:46:18 pm »
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I've have never seen such a clearly documented murder, if you think this is a scam then you probably do not believe anything ever. Time to wear a tin foil hat Panos. Easiest police case ever.

Now now, no need to get all touchy, I know that puberty can be harsh, but you`ll get used to it.
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 06:52:49 pm »
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I don't think it's a scam really, who would get scammed, what would be the point, to give Islam a bad reputation?

Good excuse for going in war against Iran?

How come this only happens in US and UK? Other countries sent their soldiers to "stabilize" the situation in middle east.

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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 06:57:36 pm »
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Why the hell would we go to war with iran over this? Its fucked up extremists committing murder. The guy was targeted because he was wearing a charity shirt that helps injured servicemen, the sad thing is these scum didn't die when shot.
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 06:59:29 pm »
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Good excuse for going in war against Iran?

How come this only happens in US and UK? Other countries sent their soldiers to "stabilize" the situation in middle east.

To be honest UK seemed to get dragged into it once MERCIA decided it wanted to go to war the the east and secretly steal their oil. But I seriously don't get why Western counties get involved in eastern civil wars and stuff since the west has no business in fighting the eastern wars.

The east has and always will be fighting its self and western Politicians need to get that in their fecking thick heads because otherwise shit like this happens.  :evil:

Why the hell would we go to war with iran over this? Its fucked up extremists committing murder. The guy was targeted because he was wearing a charity shirt that helps injured servicemen, the sad thing is these scum didn't die when shot.

I think its events and attacks like this that make me thing the UK should bring back hangings.
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2013, 07:00:44 pm »
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How would you use this to justify war with iran. These were British citizens who's brutal and unprovoked murder has basically drawn out all the closest racists in the UK.

The reason these attacks happen in the US and UK is because these are popular targets for extremists.  I don't understand their rational so can't explain why.
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2013, 07:08:00 pm »
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Why the hell would we go to war with iran over this? Its fucked up extremists committing murder. The guy was targeted because he was wearing a charity shirt that helps injured servicemen, the sad thing is these scum didn't die when shot.

Maybe not because of this particular case like this but if they keep it up, who knows. One thing is certain, this will make life harder for some people.

And I agree with Christo that religion is the problem. When a heavily drugged guy eats other guy's face, it's just a gruesome incident. But when something like this happens and some retard says it's in the name of a Allah, every person who resemble prejudiced image of a muslim will have a tough time until the whole thing settles. Just like it happened numerous times before.

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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2013, 07:28:34 pm »
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To be honest UK seemed to get dragged into it once MERCIA decided it wanted to go to war the the east and secretly steal their oil. But I seriously don't get why Western counties get involved in eastern civil wars and stuff since the west has no business in fighting the eastern wars.

Tony Blair. Despite 1 million people protesting in London against it he still went to Iraq. The utter twat.

How would you use this to justify war with iran. These were British citizens who's brutal and unprovoked murder has basically drawn out all the closest racists in the UK.

The reason these attacks happen in the US and UK is because these are popular targets for extremists.  I don't understand their rational so can't explain why.

This. The guy was British born and only converted when he was 16/17. He then got involved with radical preachers and some groups that are now banned in the UK.

Certainly our foreign policy doesn't help as that is usually the fundamental reason that extremist preachers use when saying they want these kinds of attacks to happen. They cite British soldiers in Islamic countries. No matter how much the Government tries to say we are helping them there will be few that see it that way. These preachers know how to control people and that is what they do. Unfortunately these guys were probably slowly turned in their local community and preached to every Friday for a number of years. Eventually it can lead to something like this.

The scary part is that this is just one case out of many. Over the past few years the intelligence services have foiled a large number of much bigger plots. Unfortunately there's not much you can do against lone wolf guys like these two other than go right to the source.

And now there is just shit talking on both sides. On one side you have extremist clerics like Choudary who have been touring media channels and given air time (ridiculously) to preach their crap, on the other you have the EDL who are clashing with police and proclaiming a very racist stance that makes them no better than the clerics.
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Re: Is London beheading a scam??
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2013, 07:29:21 pm »
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The east has and always will be fighting its self and western Politicians need to get that in their fecking thick heads because otherwise shit like this happens.  :evil:

This is just bullshit. Just look at Europe 100 years ago and now. Steps have been taken and it has improved greatly, but until the World Wars, there was constant conflict in Europe. However, after WWII, measures were taken to prevent this, and that was what encouraged the birth of what would come to be the EU (which is, after all, a union of countries with different types of Christianity culturally and historically).
Eastern countries could very well try to organise in a big Muslim entity (it has happened historically already), yet that would not be in the interest of the West, since if the other groups are divided, they are easily kept at bay, but if the Muslim countries joined forces they would become a decent superpower, Thus certain people meddle in their affairs, keep them busy fighting each other so that they do not turn into this.
This intervention, however, can unite them even more against the West, if it is not done carefully, thus the double meanings, lies, etc...
And what we call religious fanaticism, they might call by a different name, like revenge, holy war, etc, but it is after all the same shit that underlies in every human dispute. Hatred and fear to the unknown from both sides, and also people leading them and bringing the worst out of people.
Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania.
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