Buff normal bows / Nerf +3 bows and arrows

[Sultan Eren]

Buff all normal bows.
Nerf +3 bows slightly.
Nerf +3 arrows slightly.

Double archer score. Since they are not involved in combat they can not get points.

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In the end, nothing will be changed for a masterwork archer

[Rumblood]

If you were to double archer score I would lead every single cavalry map, averaging 150 and getting over 240 points some maps.

[San]

I agree that +0 archer items should be buffed. I am not sure how to weaken +3s at all, since I've never done archer. I don't think simply nerfing +3 item stats will do much help.

Make archer score more equivalent to what melee have, or give bonus points for headshots.

Change score area from near an enemy taking damage to the area near teammates who are gaining points (incl. range). Enemies getting teamhit next to you should give you points, just for hilarity effect. People in clusters will still get points, just not as many free points as before. These have been suggested by others for a long time, and they sound like pretty good ideas that don't seem too hard to implement.

[Tydeus]

there are no guaranteed points, so when you do a lot of 'chip damage' the effects add up, but your score doesn't. Everyone needs to get a minimum of 1 point for hitting an opponent, regardless of their class.

[Little Lord Lollipop]

Unloomed archer gear needs a buff, loomed archer gear doesn't need a nerf.

[Sultan Eren]

Unloomed archer gear needs a buff, loomed archer gear doesn't need a nerf.

When you buff a normal bow, +3 bow will be also buffed. I don't suggest any change for a mw archer.

[MrShine]

I agree with everything except doubling archer scores...instead of doubling maybe increase points by 25-50%.

[Necrorave]

I mean, if it is possible.  Why not give a "Suppression bonus"?

Something like wherever their ammo lands, a small radius around the landing spot will give small amounts of points for an enemy death for a couple of seconds.  (This could cause people to shoot teammates more often though)

So to negate that, make hitting team-mates more punishable when it comes to points.  Shooting enemies in a skirmish with a team mate is a risk and should be either Very rewarding or Very damaging.

Thoughts?

[Rumblood]

When you buff a normal bow, +3 bow will be also buffed. I don't suggest any change for a mw archer.

Then what you meant to say is buff normal bow and leave MW bows at current levels instead of nerf +3 bows and arrows. The fact is, most archers playing today, and especially the HA's playing today are using +3 equipment, yet the consensus is that archers and HA's are at a good balance. While the "buff normal" part of your suggestion sounds nice, due to the overall makeup of gear actually being used, the "nerf +3" would result in a nerf for 95%+ of archer and especially HA's.

Does anyone really think that archers and HA's need yet another nerf?

[Sultan Eren]

Then what you meant to say is buff normal bow and leave MW bows at current levels instead of nerf +3 bows and arrows. The fact is, most archers playing today, and especially the HA's playing today are using +3 equipment, yet the consensus is that archers and HA's are at a good balance. While the "buff normal" part of your suggestion sounds nice, due to the overall makeup of gear actually being used, the "nerf +3" would result in a nerf for 95%+ of archer and especially HA's.

Does anyone really think that archers and HA's need yet another nerf?

It's not a nerf I want, read properly.

[Rumblood]

It's not a nerf I want, read properly.

Title: Nerf
Nerf
Nerf

Write properly.

[OttomanSniper]

bsg

[Ronin]

I sense little need to be a grammar chocolate chip cookie here.

What this thread means:

-Buff unloomed equipment
-Leave +3 the same

[Moncho]

Are you sure that it is +3 equipment and not the experience of 6+ gens playing archer?

[Rumblood]

I sense little need to be a grammar chocolate chip cookie here.

What this thread means:

-Buff unloomed equipment
-Leave +3 the same

It is semantics, not grammar and if it were semantically accurate, we wouldn't need my banter or your clarification.