13 on my main, retired my level 32 at gen 11, and then on gen 12 at level 33 "I was done retiring" but then double XP Sunday came, and I wanted another loom to go with the one I got for investing in MBG, so I retired. Done retiring at Gen 13, now I have an alt who's 2nd gen (1.4 million from retiring) and uses all the equipment that my main used to use, and the same level 30 builds. The reason for that, is so that I can keep getting looms, and I think it's the build with the best chance of me getting valor (not to mention then I can use all my heirlooms I already have: +3 heraldic mail with surcoat, +1 mail gauntlets, +3 courser, +3 lance, +3 knightly arming sword).