Horse x-bow

[Micah]

Increase reload speed or remove added speed bonus from horse.

sorry for similar repost, but...
gamedesign-wise its about "a class needs to inherit a role", which means , that there has to be a fun way of playing an HX which other classes dont have ...
make it a mobile sniper with lots of damage and strong surprize-shotgunning-potential ... like : run-bye one-shotting on a curser (which i think offers  quite some fun for HX) but not in that frequence like it currently is, and with some challenge to escape until reloaded (which means longer time to reload for the next assault).

[BlueKnight]

Increase reload speed or remove added speed bonus from horse.

Gurni is the best HX in the world. I'd vote for removing or lowering (if it's possible) the speed bonus from a horseback for projectiles. I hope you can separate somehow arrow and bolt speed bonus, else we would hurt those little, cute HAs.

... like : run-bye one-shotting on a curser

Btw. I'm not sure if my +3 Destrier wasn't killed by 1 bolt of HX.

[Templar_Steevee]

I'm not whining about getting shot. When i choose a non shield class i agreed with that i'm gonna get shot preety often. Problem is a dmg i get from tiny weapon wich cost almost nothing.

[Gurnisson]

I'm not whining about getting shot. When i choose a non shield class i agreed with that i'm gonna get shot preety often. Problem is a dmg i get from tiny weapon wich cost almost nothing.

Are you complaining about light crossbow as a weapon now? You said HX and that implies it has to be a horse involved as well, making it way more expensive than a longbow, which deals more damage. Justifying it with price won't get you anywhere.

However, the combination of damage and maneuverability makes the class too strong for what is an annoying class for most. At least don't up the strength requirements only, like some have suggested in earlier threads. A 7/30 build is weaker than a higher strength build, but more people play the high agility way for the sake of fun. I've tried both and the (minor) higher damage and draw-rate doesn't make up for the (much) less forgiving nature of play. The reload speed is, in my opinion, a bit closer to the horse archer than it should be.

[BlueKnight]

He's just saying that HXs deal bigger dmg than HAs. They can also 1-shot you in the head even though you can survive MW Bodkin from MW longbow. I have both less hp and head armour than steevee on his alt and I survive ROBINHOOD's HS from ~15 meters.

xbow's dmg from horseback is just rly big. That's what topic is about.

[obitus]

Use light crossbow for HX, more dmg.

Btw BUFF HX

[Templar_Steevee]

Are you complaining about light crossbow as a weapon now? You said HX and that implies it has to be a horse involved as well, making it way more expensive than a longbow

I counted upkeep of equipment that Abbar was using (i counted Desert Horse also) and it's a bit lower than my upkeep on Steevee (2,122 gold) difference is about 300 gold. I'm not complaining about that tiny x-bow, but about class. IMO all ranged (i'm not telling about throwers), are preety ballanced, except HX (they are just OP)

Use light crossbow for HX, more dmg.

I'm talking about it all the time

[obitus]

Well some people are confused

Hunting crossbow's dmg from horseback is just rly big. That's what topic is about.

[Templar_Steevee]

i mean light x-bow all the time

[Gurnisson]

He's just saying that HXs deal bigger dmg than HAs. They can also 1-shot you in the head even though you can survive MW Bodkin from MW longbow. I have both less hp and head armour than steevee on his alt and I survive ROBINHOOD's HS from ~15 meters.

xbow's dmg from horseback is just rly big. That's what topic is about.

It's too big, especially considering the maneuverability, but while long bows and rus bows usually knock off 60 - 80 % off my hp in one hit, HX is more like 40 - 60 %. I never survive headshots from loomed long bows and rus bows (54 head armour and 21-24 strength and a couple of IF points), and only remember Butan surviving one of mine while playing as Projectile Prick. However, people surviving headshots from my horse crossbowman, while rare, definitely happens more often than with it did on my archer.

[obitus]

the difference is hx shoots about 50% as fast

[Kafein]

I agree, how armor works between ranged and melee weapons is pretty much fucked up.

[BlueKnight]

i mean light x-bow all the time

Well some people are confused

Yeah my fault, I corrected it. Was out of crpg for month and a half and I mixed something with crossbows. Sorry

[Krax]

My upkeep is 3810.

Not all HX's are 7/30, but for me personaly i dont really care if they lower our dmg. But i can just imagin the next post after they do it. They delay even longer now !!! hehe

[Thomek]

I like a challenge, but HX needs to be where HA and Archery is atm, something for the dedicated.
(or just be completely removed. It's a timewasting, obscure troll class with way too much power and survivability.)

I have nothing but respect for those that do archery or even HA nowadays.
I know its actually a hard classes to play. (Not like in many patches past where it was ridiculous.)

Now HX..

I've been one shotted in the body from about 100m by HX on Thomek my lvl 34char, mw armor..

Just ain't right.