What do western people think about Syria? What does your media tell you?

[Abay]

Here is the truth:

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http://www.nasrtv.com/modules/video/singlefile.php?cid=15&lid=8848

And I want you to tell how you see the situation from your home, your tv, your internet. What do they tell you?

[SoA_Sir_ODHarry]

http://www.infowars.com/

[Oberyn]

I mostly get my news from the net. From what I can gather Syria has descended into fullblown sectarian warfare now. The biggest divide being between alawites (and christians) on the coast vs various sunni groups of the interior, from moderates to salafist nutbags. The kurds are doing pretty much what they did in Iraq, just hanging back and defending their neighborhoods, trying to become as autonomous as possible but simultaneously receiving aid from the PKK and possibly even iraqi kurds. Turkey probably doesn't look favorably upon that, but there's other reasons for Turkey to get involved beyond just the kurds. If I'm not wrong doesn't Turkey still see certain areas of Syria with irredentism, in the northwest? I might be wrong.

edit: I just saw the video. You both are retarded. Alex Jones for one, and a conspiracy by the US and Israel to manipulate a turk president into not attacking for the other? NATO has no interest in intervening in Syria. If they wanted to intervene, they couldve done it ages ago. They don't need the consent and excuse of "Oh noes, turks are being killed on the border! Now we really have an opportunity!".

[Oberyn]

Okay Abay, what is your perspective? Your video is kind of all over the place. Apparently US+Israel are totally for wahhabist and salafist terrorist lunatics, and their only interest is in destabilizing Syria. The video seems to be very pro-establishment. I suggest that the reason NATO (including Turkey) haven't intervened in Syria is because they actually are pro-establishment and anti "rebels". Can you imagine what would happen if Assad got open support from the west? That would just galvanize the fanatics. And it would highlight the hypocrisy of the support for the so-called "arab spring".
I actually agree that the attack against turks on the border was most likely an attempt by a group of rebels (what faction out of the hundreds present in Syria, who knows. Maybe even PKK) to provoke Turkey into a war with Assad's regime. So basically Turkey saw through the false flag attack and refused to get involved...and somehow that is bad?
As brutal a dictator as Assad is, I still see him as better for Syria than whatever would emerge from the "coalition" of rebels fighting against him. The most likely outcome would be total fragmentation of Syria along ethnic lines.

[Rumblood]

A bunch of crazies in power are fighting a bunch of crazies not in power. There may be some non-crazies in the middle, but the likelihood of anyone not crazy being in power after it all settles regardless of what the West does is practically zero.

[Abay]

Well, the issue is about big middle east project. With this project, USA wants to build a kurdish country south of Turkey, north of Iraq/Syria and west of Iran. The main reason is managing petrol market in the north of Iraq freely, controlling Iran and guaranteeing safety of Israel. And after we search some informations about how they did this before for Serbia and Bosnia, we see similar ways are happening in the area.

You know, western people mainly see middle easterns like terrorists and their media show some terrorist actions to them and make people fear. But do they know big western countries create them for their own interests?

There was peace in Syria before. There were muslims from many kind of sects, christians and muslims. But now, Sunni(a ridicilous islamic sect) people try to kill another sects in islam and other religions and they call themselves ''free syrian army''. The year is 2013 and one sunni guy kill a man from another sect of islam, cut his stomach and eat his liver. I have watched it on a video and shocked. They bomb muslim countries with saying ''Allahuekber'' and they say ''we are fighting for peace'' or ''we are fighting for islam'' on their videos. How ridicilous men they are!

Turkish government is the real problem here with Qatar. How they can dare to be included to change a regime in another country? If Syria must change its regime, Syrian people only can decide this! After Turkish war of independence, middle east was going to be better places to live. They decided to delete: ''Religion of x country is X'' in their constitutions. So they can improve their living levels, productions, technologies and independences, plus they were educating their people better without religion in official parts of countries. After a moment, one by one started to change their regimes. With one power from outside of a country, one power with using their spies in another country. People started to be more ignorant and wanted religions in their laws. Now, Turkey is trying to stand against it. But we see our people is also ignorant. The government fucks them and those people still keep voting the government. We see that is a long term project with started on our education system in 1940's with NATO.

And what I am angry with is their usage of Islam. They say they are muslim and kill a man with no judgement. Even some people think Turkey is an atheist country(cos it has no religion in its laws) so stealing from the country is not sinfull. Can you believe it? Can you imagine how they make comments?

Only reason why middle-east has always war is having many crayz and ignorant people who thinks they are very religious in their population and western imperial countries see those population as a big market.

My personal hope is Turkish Youth Union for protecting Atatürk's logic and rising middle-east against impreialist countries.

I have many thoughts(bad an good) in my mind and I am very angry when I think them. Maybe I wrote things complicated or missed something here but tried to tell general situation.

Note: When I call ''imperial countries'', I dont mean people who lives in there. What I mean is governments.

[SoA_Sir_ODHarry]

OBERYN check Alex Jones and what he do before u use the deadly word "Conspiracy" and callin me/us Fools.

Obvisously Western Goverments akay UNO akay USA akay BANKSrupt the WORLD playin their Game with what they got.The arabic world got deep cultural Problems no doubt.

BUT:
In german Interwebz it is stated that Israel dropped a Uran Bomb or Nuclear Bomb in Damaskus at Civil Exploratory.I got no Problems with Jews but Zionists!!!

Recently i saw a Interview of an Ex ALJAZEERA Journalist of a well respected Magazin in Germany.He stated that AL Jazeera was introduced by BBC and how it turned too a PROPAGANDA MACHINE like WESTERN MEDIA.Hes a Syrian living in Germany for 23 Years now btw.
Terrorist is as dumb of a Discripton just like ConspiracyTheorie too kill any Context one could give who owns a critical Position too the common Opinion of the Mass.

As I LIVE IN GERMANY and know very well that my "Country" is the 2nd biggest Weapon Producer and Supplier in the HOLE WORLD ,i know that most so called Terrorists are supplyd by my "Goverment" which is in Fact still in WorldWarII and actually goverend by the National Socialists ,which also infiltrated various other Nations like USA and The Establishment(UK)
This National Socialists werent and isnt wanted by the Germans but by the Industrial Billionairs of Germany,EU,UK or USA.This Industrys are controlled by the Banks because in Fact all of The Major Industries owned by them(I forget the number but i believe it was ca.5000)and they are theirself owned by a very small Group of Humans.(In Fact 13 Family Trees I believe)
I guess u know exactly in which way our Moneysystem works.Its all about Debts.U just can make a Profit if someone else have a Debt in return.If u not understand this Sentence I highly suggest too educate urself about how exactly our Banksystem works!!!!.
Since the Western Banksystem is actually bankrupt since no phisycall Worth covers the Paper(Digital)money the Banks aint bet at Science,Economiclly Improvment or Food but in War! too cover their Banknotes.They do this for atleast 200 Years now and so they are the actual Source of the majority of Big Wars at our Planet because they are the Ones that profit of it.
Again check ur Facts!!!!
As i stated Germany is 2nd biggest Producer and Supplyer of Weapons in the HOLE WORLD.For exampel Germany GmBH(Company) just delivered 5 Submarine Boats ,which are capabel too launch Nuclear Rockets ,too Isreal.
1st Weapon Producer and Supplyer of Weapons in the HOLE WORLD are the USA which actually deliver and plan too deliver Weapons too Syria "Opportunitists".
By the Way check Goldman Sachs which literally owns most of HumanASSES at the Paper.If u did that u can come back and tell me once again that Alex Jones, HURRICANE and me are Fools.
As u said u got ur Informations of the Internet i assume u very well educated about Mass Medias ,one Part of the Western WARMACHINE.

greetz OD

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[Oberyn]

One deluded retard with no experience of the world beyond conspiracy theories on the internet and one deluded fascist-nationalist retard, ok my first impression was correct. Basically the entire world is trying to do bad things to Turkey (of course have to throw kurds in there, the current boogyman), the poor martyr country. And decolonisation, pan-arabism and the resurgence of islam as a political entity was orchestrated specifically by the "west" to destabilize the middle east, of course. None of the political/ethnic groups that emerged there since the end of WW2 have any sort of agency, they all only exist and thrive under the secret support of the evil imperialists that have complete global control. You stupid fucks really have no idea how chaotic the real world is. If only it was as simple as a small group of ultrapowerful evil westerners controlling the world like some sort of modern greek gods for their amusement. It certainly cuts down on having to actually explain reality, maybe that's the only way idiots can contemplate it without being overwhelmed by complexity.

[NuberT]

FSA = Terrorists supported by countries (USA, Israel, EU) claiming to fight a war on terrorism and real dictatorships (Qatar and other sheikdoms)
Syria = A souvereign country trying to remain so

German mainstream media is telling me these terrorists are good terrorists and Assad is an evil dictator.

[Knute]

Q: What does your media tell you?

A:  I mostly get my world news from the New York Times and the Guardian in the morning then spend the rest of the day reading entertainment news sites like deadline.com and gawker.com.  Here's a link to the nytimes front page story on Syria today, check it out and decide for yourself if it's biased in any way:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/world/middleeast/syrian-army-moves-to-rebel-held-qusayr.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&hp

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Q: What do western people think about Syria?

A: I think the refugee situation is pretty sad and it seems like a conflict that's not going to end anytime soon.  Other than that, just being honest here, it's not something I think about very often since I'm mostly focused on things going on in my own life.  Hotheads always start these conflicts but ultimately it's the children and innocent people who suffer when problems can't be resolved peacefully through dialogue.  I'm just happy that I live in a place in the world where people don't take religion very seriously, women wear short shorts year round and gay men can be themselves.

Also, I watched about a minute of the propaganda video in the OP but had it turn it off because I don't want to get hassled by security next time I'm at the airport plus it's hard to take anything seriously when it has the music from Batman playing in the background. 

[BASNAK]

There were muslims from many kind of sects, christians and muslims. But now, Sunni(a ridicilous islamic sect)

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Doubt you can call 90% of a religion for sectarians lol.

I haven't been following Syria closely, but it started with people protesting which ended with them being brutally repressed for doing so. And religious clashes tend to happen in the Middle East. Especially when the government consists of a small bunch belonging to one religion and the people belonging to other religions. Just like it happened in Qatar and Iraq

[Panos]

My personal hope is Turkish Youth Union for protecting Atatürk's logic and rising middle-east against impreialist countries.

Thank god, there are some armenians left for you to annihilate them all then 

[Vibe]

edit out of respect for the mod <3