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Author Topic: What do you think is the best shielder build?  (Read 2671 times)

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 12:20:15 am »
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What Matey says, I felt a big difference with 7 vs 8 athl, plus with 4 ps, I expected to do very little damage, and compensated with movement, but with 15/21 I felt like I lacked damage. I know it is a mental issue, since I did more damage most of the time, but that little damage was not worth it compared to the extra mobility for me.
Also, bucklers improve so much with shield skill, it lasted so much longer and covered arrows better with 8 shield, so with 7 I had to use elite cav and similar which slow you down even more
And my 12/24 was a backstabber, whereas with the 15/21 I had to stay with the main group much more often.

I haven't had that experience tbh. Its at most one extra hit than going higher like 18/21 or 21/18 but its still fast as hell and the build I put up has a ton of excess that can be moved around or converted if you want a 15/24.
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 01:07:29 am »
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 64

    Converted: 8
    Ironflesh: 4
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 6
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 0

    One Handed: 113
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 01:19:55 am »
+1
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2013, 01:32:18 am »
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of all the builds i've tried i like my current build the best

Level 32:

18/21

One Handed:127
Polearm:127
Weapon Master:7
Athletics:7
Iron Flesh:2
Shield:7

But for that build you need light armour and a short 1h (~~ 97 and below) (the low 1h wpf and low powerstrike means using a long 1h is useless)

If you want to use a long 1h (nordic champion sword) however, you need more 1h WPF but less speed, meaning you can't really effectively hoplite, but you can wear more armour

 but if you wanted to do that i'd suggest a 21/18 build with ~~ 14-18 armour weight ...

i'd always put around ~~ 10-20% of my WPF points into polearm when going 1h, giving me some defence in the open against cavalry, but i'd dump the majority into 1h.

That's one of the worst builds I've ever seen! JESUS H CHRIST!

2h, cav or xbow is the best shielder build.

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8PS
3Shield
5 Ath
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@ 31
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8PS
5Shield
5Ath
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9PS
5Shield
5Ath

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2013, 01:46:03 am »
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oh yeah. what weapon you use is really important if you are a high agi shielder. get a good axe/blunt or a sword with a good thrust. or if you are horribly lame you can use a steel pick or scimitar.

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2013, 01:52:24 am »
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Level:           31

Strength:        30
Agility:          9

Skill to attr:    6

Ironflash:        7
Power Strike:     10
Shield:           3
Athletics:        3
Weapon Master:    3

One Handed:     132
Or
Polearm: 132 (for hoplite)

U can lower str for 12 agi and more at shield/ath.
Best ever. More than 12 agi - gay agiwhore & deserve permaban. also, at that build I made 9 strat effectiveness prev. gen. Ofc build forcing to use lighter equip, but amount of HP can balance it.

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2013, 03:03:09 am »
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ya nikmac not bad bud. i was always under the impression 1h even with a polearm is 1h prof? im dumb so i dont know
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2013, 03:06:35 am »
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of all the builds i've tried i like my current build the best

Level 32:

18/21

One Handed:127
Polearm:127
Weapon Master:7
Athletics:7
Iron Flesh:2
Shield:7

But for that build you need light armour and a short 1h (~~ 97 and below) (the low 1h wpf and low powerstrike means using a long 1h is useless)

If you want to use a long 1h (nordic champion sword) however, you need more 1h WPF but less speed, meaning you can't really effectively hoplite, but you can wear more armour

 but if you wanted to do that i'd suggest a 21/18 build with ~~ 14-18 armour weight ...

i'd always put around ~~ 10-20% of my WPF points into polearm when going 1h, giving me some defence in the open against cavalry, but i'd dump the majority into 1h.

No PS :O

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2013, 04:49:21 am »
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I am going to have to go with my current lvl 31:24 15 build, If went to 34: 24 18(tried 18 18, 21 15, and 21 18)
1hand's lack of damage needs to be made up for with high ps sadly this means you can't make up for the lack of mobility due to the heavy shield (7.5 weight) until 34.
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2013, 08:37:33 am »
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No PS :O
That build leaves 6 points free, so presumably he just forgot to list his powerstrike.

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2013, 10:26:23 am »
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1h+Shield on EU siege is super easy-mode, often make it on top of scoreboard without much practise as a shielder..

Using STF char with:
18/21
One Handed:146
Weapon Master:5
Athletics:7
Shield:5
Powerstrike:6
while using swords

and
15/24
One Handed:146
Weapon Master:5
Athletics:8
Shield:5
Powerstrike:5
while using maces and picks

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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2013, 01:37:48 pm »
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After years of playing 1-h, I always come back to 18/21. 1h just performs better with more athletics. Due to the low initial damage of 1-h and the percentile-based damage increases, they don't get much of a boost for stacking strength. You'll always be outperformed by 2h and pole damage-wise. With increased agi, you can overcome the weight penalty by your shield, easily outrange slower shielders and more easily dodge kicks. With higher shield skill, you become practically invulnerable from the front. Speed bonus combined with held attacks easily overcomes any slight damage reduction you have from lower PS.

Consequently, 15/24 is also a hilariously good build especially with a good knockdown weapon.

Since we're doing level 34 builds:

Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Hit points: 61
Converted: 0
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 7
Athletics: 7
Riding: 7
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 145

Adjust IF, WM and WPF to taste.

You can take some solid hits, (though you should only be hit from behind) your shield will almost never break and you can ride an arabian. Not too shabby.
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2013, 04:08:06 pm »
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Everything with 6 athletics more. I almost cry when I lose my horse on my 21/15 1h cav STF :lol:
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2013, 04:17:25 pm »
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27/12 is surprisingly good with heavy armor.
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Re: What do you think is the best shielder build?
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2013, 04:18:26 pm »
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My favorite dedicated shielder build (level 30) is 12 strength 4 power strike, 24 agility 8 athletics 8 weapon master (all 1h) 8 shield

Its a good build to explore the field on your own.

I quite often manage to 'dodge' horsemen and can take out archers.

With my leather armor and ankle boots I sometimes even manage to run away from a tincan-gangbang-squad. Sometimes. Haha.

Also, if you care about scoreboard, its a good build. For every successfull hit on an enemy you apparently get some scoreboard-points.
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