stop joking with 2H

[Joker86]

I guess it was only a typo, and he meant

"stop poking with 2hd"

which is a perfectly understandable and reasonable request.


But in all seriousness: Pepe, if you already argument with reality: 2hd were NOT slower than other weapons. As you can swing them with both hands you have twice the strength for swinging them, and thus you can be equally fast or even faster than one handed weapons.

When a weaponsmith designed a 1hd weapon for a customer, he took care that customer could swing it with a reasonable speed. And the same rule logically applies for 2hd weapons. Nobody would use a weapon which makes him a lot slower than his enemy, because in a battle speed is the most important factor. That's why the 2hd speed is fine in its current state. Although the bastard swords indeed are ridiculously fast.

[Rebelyell]

What makes 2h such an easy to use class is that the animations ignore objects and teammates a lot more than the other weapons and that they rarely glance, even at horrible angles.

In the hands of skilled players, 2h is balanced with other melee classes. When you are comparing mediocre players, 2h is stronger because it is derp friendly.

lol
I will just ignore you all from now.

[Dalhi]

That is actually true story Bobby, you may want to read again carefully last 8 words :x

[vipere]

I told you to block Pepe !! try it, you will see, 2h is less Op when you block them !

[Cyber]

http://forum.meleegaming.com/realism-discussion/

a nice place to mix game balance with realism so the rest of us can ignore it

[Thomek]

Insanely fast poleaxes? Mister katana complaining about the speed of the slower polearms? I guess you can't just spam a better player who uses a slower weapon because he knows what he's doing. Your spam should always kill, because a katana user should be able to do anything. Such a shame

1st of all this thread is full of bs and quite entertaining.

Mr. Can't read. Are you saying that you have never seen a poleaxe be chambered behind the wielder, then next frame you are dead. At least with 2h you can see some kind of swing animation. I'm abusing this myself with the lhb atm. Getting in unbelievable hits at long range.

Back on topic, there are and have always been, in my opinion, a huge benefit to long weapons of almost all kinds in crpg. (balance wise)

Look at 2h greatswords, polearmswings with greataxes, hoplites. They are everywhere.

Long range=power

That power is not accounted for in the weapon stats. Since long weapons would often have great momentum, damage should be high. There is one stat left then, and that is speed.

Speed is where long weapons should have to pay for the sake of balance and variety.

So what weapon should one balance around? I'd say the longsword, which is fast, elegant, medium damage, medium length. (And historically well researched and recognized as a great weapon.) Also one should not balance around duelability, which becomes a rarer and rarer battlefield thing anyway these days.

[Ninja_Khorin]

The animations for some weapons seem too fast.

THAT SAID. The animations are not historically correct. True duelling relied more on quick stabbing movements and small swings(usually as a follow-up to a parry) than wide swings that leave you completely open to attack and true duelling could be even faster than the duelling in cRPG.

Mount&Blade attempts to simulate combat, but it's not perfect, which is why realism arguments are bullshit.

Gameplay balance > Physics and historical accuracy

[pepejul]

I love you all.... I learned many things about 2H nos... I will make a new thread named "stop joking with shields".... thank you bye