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clothing/armor
« on: May 09, 2013, 02:52:44 pm »
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more coats, hats, and shirts are appreciated.
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 02:55:09 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 03:24:25 pm »
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 07:23:12 pm »
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 08:01:43 pm »
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What is this first armor tovi? Aketon over mail? That doesn't make sense :D

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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 08:31:22 pm »
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Why not?

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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 12:08:27 am »
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Because it's supposed to be worn under for it to be more comfortable. Then again i'm no expert.

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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 04:38:59 pm »
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Aketons are worn to reduce blunt trauma from hits. Wearing it over mail would just eliminate that protection, because mail is also made of metal, and it would just hit your unprotected body. Also if you wear the aketon like that it would be ruined after one fight, because it's not very effective against the actual cuts or stabs.

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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 08:35:34 pm »
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Aketons are worn to reduce blunt trauma from hits. Wearing it over mail would just eliminate that protection, because mail is also made of metal, and it would just hit your unprotected body. Also if you wear the aketon like that it would be ruined after one fight, because it's not very effective against the actual cuts or stabs.

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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2013, 02:27:09 am »
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I agree the aketon over mail looks strange. But we can find pictures of it, like in the Osprey's books :
http://books.google.fr/books?id=gXeyZicujL0C&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

I also find a painting of the 15th century, with a padded jack over mail. So, maybe it's historical.
http://www.companie-of-st-george.ch/cms/?q=en/ursula-shrine-linnen-armour-padded-jack-series-1

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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 10:25:41 pm »
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 01:07:09 am »
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The one in the osprey book could be metal splints embedded in the padding. The miniature is just a miniature.
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 07:11:59 am »
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 01:31:09 pm »
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The one in the osprey book could be metal splints embedded in the padding. The miniature is just a miniature.

I know my sources are not perfect, but it's the only one I can find. There must be others, but I have not the time to make intensives reaserches.

There is another picture in this Opsrey book which shows a mercenary wearing "an early form of scaled-linen, canvas-covered jacque" over mail (I can't find any picture of it, and I don't know if I can scan it, beacause of copyright). It definitely don't look like a brigandine or something like this ; it's clearly light and without metal.
"Jacque" is a french word for "gambeson/aketon/padded jacket".

In another Opsrey book (Henry V and the conquest of France : http://books.google.fr/books?id=niJRz9EhwxoC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr#v=onepage&q&f=false), I find a another picture of a soldier wearing a kind of padded jacque over mail. The author says : "he wears a loose garment which may simply serve to protect the armour from the weather". I can't show you the picture, so you'll have to believe me, but the "loose garment" looks exactly like the aketon (if it's an aketon) of the first picture of Tovi (except it's blue).

The utilization makes sense to me : a mail is quite expensive and it must be quite hard to maintain without rust during a campaign. It's seems useless in combat, but it must be a good protection against the rain.


I'm sorry if I made some mistakes, or if I'm not very clear, my english is not very good.
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Re: clothing/armor
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2013, 02:25:14 am »
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Yeah, this makes sense. Might also be used in hot climates to keep the metal from heating up through direct sunlight.
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