slowpikes

[no_rules_just_play]

i wanted to post this in technical forums, but i know i would get a warning.

basically: if i use transitional armor and a pike and bonk uses his full plate and a great maul, bonk is faster then me. If I use my cuir bouilli and a pike, he is about the same speed.

If he comes at me with his overhead ready, i have to hold an overhead and either try to run away while backpeddeling with my block up or try to get around him. The only problem is that if i try to get around him he releases his attack seemingly about to miss me but than drags his weapon over the ground to hit my foot. which obviously does knockdown. If i backpeddle in any armor with my block up he is way faster then me.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

You can like run in the other direction instead of just S keying, pretty sure bonk got 0 ath, you could also learn to properly also drop your pike and take out your sidearm, not crutch plate, have the 18 other HREs on your team on siege kill him for you.

[Casimir]

using a longspear with 0 wpf has convinced me that there is absolutely nothing UP about such weapons.

[no_rules_just_play]

my problem isnt really that i am so slow. but that bonk still can be so fast.

[Ulter]

You presented the situation as a 1 vs 1 fight. The game should not be balanced around duels.

[Casimir]

Also aren't mauls basically the most effective melee counter to thrust based polearms?

[no_rules_just_play]

bonk should be slow as fuck in his plate with his super heavy gear and a 36/9 build

i have a 15/24 build. i think you get my point.

[sF_Guardian]

Pike is not a dueling weapon and a maulers is the Pike's worst counter.
Get this point and stop whining about the game not being perfectly suited to
your playstyle.
Mauls got nerfed over and over, I can lolspam nearly every mauler with my HBS.

EDIT: to say something friendlier:

Pike slows you down as fuck because of it's lengt decrases your running speed.
Armor weight decreases effective WPF and running speed, the attack speed
stays pretty fast with low WPF, though.

Sometimes it's better to change the playstyle than to whine about mechanics.

[CrazyCracka420]

i think you get my point.

I think I get your point

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[no_rules_just_play]

its not only about the 'maul' its the fact that a plated guy outruns a piker

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

its not only about the 'maul' its the fact that a plated guy outruns a piker

Which is pretty fucking fair.

[no_rules_just_play]

3 athletics fullplate bundle of sticks outrunning a 8 athletics tryhard because fuck you he has a long stick?

[Gurnisson]

Why would you go 15/24 and use transitional and cuir bouilli? I'd go with more strength if you're going to wear such heavy gear.

[sF_Guardian]

You need str for heavier gear like Gurni mentioned and also its pretty dammn needed to keep the roflcopters at slow running speed.
You know, balance and such stuff (although STR builds ain't balanced very well atm but thats a different story).

[Rhaelys]

It sounds about right. You are looking at the situation from a biased perspective, complaining that a full plate 3 ath person with a great maul running forward is faster than you can backpedal with 8 athletics and a 300 length pike.

If you want to actually use your 8 athletics to your advantage, try equipping a shorter weapon because weapon length directly reduces movement speed.

Also a Great Maul vs a Pike 1v1 should go in the Great Maul's favor 99% of the time.