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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2011, 10:05:12 pm »
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I don't see why a longer weapon should deal more damage, all crushtrough weapons got a nerf, deal with it.
:rolleyes: this coming form the guy who wants to buff teh flamburg?
anyways the long maul was nerffed in damg and weight... my master work long maul us to deal 45blunt and weight 9lb, now it weights 7lb and deals 40 blunt, it is a pice of shit for a 3x loomed weapon, super slow and just crap, the high damg and weight made it ok but now it is usless

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2011, 10:41:16 pm »
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All weapoons got buttfucked no sense in keeping up being angry bout it just get used to it and think like this.

If my weapon got nerfed atleast everyone else got too so overall its all good.

About the crush just get some PS and you will be fine.
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2011, 11:33:34 pm »
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All weapoons got buttfucked no sense in keeping up being angry bout it just get used to it and think like this.

If my weapon got nerfed atleast everyone else got too so overall its all good.

About the crush just get some PS and you will be fine.
i like how u think   :D

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2011, 11:50:23 pm »
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I still think it needs a thrust buff.
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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2011, 09:46:38 am »
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Imo it shouldn't even have a thrust.

Changing topic, went ~20 - 5 two maps in a row using long maul.

it isn't bad at all -- yes you can be spammed, but not if you side swing. Overhead when with a teammate/secure situation. You can't just overhead and expect to get a free crush kill every time lol.
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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2011, 01:00:26 am »
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coming from a polearm user i can tell you that a weapon that literally outranges every 1h should have more draw backs than just speed. Although the nerf was harsh in targeting this mostly unused item i will shed no tears for any crush weapon nerfs

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2011, 01:26:56 am »
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2-3 hitting?
are we talking about not having 10 PS

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2011, 01:30:30 am »
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OMG this weapon needs thrust.

How can you play without it?

Its like pushing over bowling pins with a broom.

They biffed it from the 0 damage boulder thrust but not enough.

Also long maul is not a hard weapon to master.

Just rewuires forward planning and good awareness.
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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2011, 09:51:46 am »
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Increase the strength requirement by 2
Increase weight by 1
Increase thrust damage by 4

Problem solved.
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2011, 02:44:54 pm »
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Increase the strength requirement by 2
Increase weight by 1
Increase thrust damage by 4

Problem solved.

Fixed.

It is already heavy enough, so you crush through everything with PS 9-10, why do you want to buff it so with PS 7 it will crush through everything? The rest is OK.

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2011, 03:01:47 pm »
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Fixed.

It is already heavy enough, so you crush through everything with PS 9-10, why do you want to buff it so with PS 7 it will crush through everything? The rest is OK.
you know any polearm user with ps 9-10? I dont and I doubt its a usefull build with strategus in sight. The number of chrushthrough weapons has been really decreased which will lead to higher numbers of 1h+shield users as they have no class to fear..

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2011, 03:04:52 pm »
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I had 9ps as pole arm

27:12 is a very effective build with long maul.

However i wont be looming it again now the raw damage is gone.

Its just not the boulder which i loved so much :(
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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2011, 03:07:02 pm »
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you know any polearm user with ps 9-10? I dont and I doubt its a usefull build with strategus in sight. The number of chrushthrough weapons has been really decreased which will lead to higher numbers of 1h+shield users as they have no class to fear..

No class to fear? Axes - 1h, 2h, polearms.

NO CLASS TO FEAR?!

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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2011, 04:24:30 am »
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As a longmaul user, I can say that it isn't so underpowered now as you say. I loved it before and I still love it after the patch. Yes, 70 speed is nothing. Great maul is by 10 faster, and it crushes through everything on 6 PS, and longmmaul is slower and crushes not so often. But this is a support weapon, it is really made only for sieges and it rocks there, and I find it to be right. Wait, step in, hit, step back and let your teammates finish the enemy if he is still alive.

The only bad thing in longmaul for me is that I use it for a long time, but still cannot get used to it's lengh. I don't feel 125. I feel the model to be made incorrectly, as a sidesword. But this is just what I feel, I may be wrong and I don' whine 'bout it.

What about thrust, longmaul really NEEDS NOT TO have thrust at all.



But yea, 2-3 hitting by crushthrough weapon (which is to smash enemy's head) even with 6 PS sucks, when 2h kill within 1-2 hits. I had a loomed longmaul, but I did not loom it again for the damage will still suck.

But I loomed mah coursa, go catch me you 1h turtles! 8p
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Re: [WHINE] Long Maul is useless now
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 11:52:02 am »
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you know any polearm user with ps 9-10? I dont and I doubt its a usefull build with strategus in sight. The number of chrushthrough weapons has been really decreased which will lead to higher numbers of 1h+shield users as they have no class to fear..

Considering that many polearm users are sporting lolaxes (long axes) or poleaxes ... and considering that 1h is helpless against horses (yep, they are very often used) and against multiple archers (shield does not protect you from all sides), i don't feel that 1h will dominate, quite the otherwise.
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