they should just take shields out of the game

[Gurnisson]

Im stating facts

there pretty much worthless

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[CrazyCracka420]

I have 4 shield skill and use a knightly heater shield (unloomed) and I love it, always have liked it.  I don't see them being useless at all (for melee or protecting from ranged).

Also, I was one of the people who commented in a suggestion thread about the steel picking being at 12 strength requirement didn't make sense.  It was significantly heavier than a lot of 1h swords that required 13 or higher strength.  I wasn't trying to fuck over kingrimm with my suggestion, it was just an obvious issue for the balance team.

[Ronin]

You might be stating facts, and I must say I do not disagree with all of them. But your writing style makes it look like whining.

[Macropus]

Ya that's the problem i noticed with this community. Instead of a discussion on an anything it turns into trolling. Im stating facts...

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O fuck all of you. If you think crush thru isnt bad your a fucking dope

Great.

People troll you instead of discussing because there's nothing to discuss here, shielders are fine. Shield is useful - if you don't think so, play few hours without it. And if you like it, well respec to 2h then? What's the problem? Shielders also can do fine against mauls (unless you have a terribly str-oriented build like 30-9 as a shielder), and mauls aren't OP in general. All this is quite obvious for me and other people too I guess.

[Phew]

Shield skill just needs to do something besides increase durability and ranged coverage, such as:
-Improve crushthrough resistance
-Reduce bolt penetration chance
-Reduce movement speed penalty due to shield weight

Also, shield mechanics are just glitchy. Even 100+ speed shields are waaay slower to block than manual blocking, 2-handers that are like 5 degrees off center swing around your block, projectiles warp around the shield into your head, etc.

[Necrorave]

What Crpg is now

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Only solution to fix things...

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[IR_Kuoin]

Why complain about shields slowing you down, when the solution (for you) is to just get a lighter shield or completely drop it ...?

[Zanze]

Imo, I don't see these problems much with 6 shield skill and +2 elite cav. Sure I get hit around the shield sometimes, but that is just people abusing 2h animations. Crushthrough usually isn't a problem given my shield has high res. If the attack did crushthrough my shield even a direct hit to my face would only do about 10% of my health. (Numbers taken from that full plate Occitan maul guy that runs around on battle server)

[NJ_Legion_Icedtea]

have you ever fought R4DL? he will show you how nice kite shields are.

[Daniisme]

You cry about mauls crushing through your shield.... That's only shows that you are inexperienced as shielder, wich means that all the reasons for removing shields from cRPG that you stated in your thread are stuipd and.... More stuipd.

Shut up.

[dreadnok]

how is it crying?  if you dont think crush thru is a fucking joke, anything you say is invalid brah. now wonder this community sucks dick. great responses. ooo speak of the devil headshoted by a thrower from a  mile away because it went up and down over my shield :[

[Moncho]

Crying about mauls crushing your shield is like cav crying because pikes rear their horses...
They are meant to be your counter, quit QQing and spam them to death... You have the range, you have the speed, all they have over you is the damage and a chance to crush through your block if they hold the attack.
and the reason you are getting trolled is, as mentioned already, your tone. You almost sound like a 2her hero crying about archery...

[Varadin]

how is it crying?  if you dont think crush thru is a fucking joke, anything you say is invalid brah. now wonder this community sucks dick. great responses. ooo speak of the devil headshoted by a thrower from a  mile away because it went up and down over my shield :[

Learn to play you noob homo 

[Teeth]

Agreed, my shield is a useless piece of crud. I only use it because it makes my spear longer. Hits pass through all the time and I still get shot a shit ton.

[Penitent]

Another problem shields have is player models moving through your shield and hitting you.  When you are blocking with a shield the player model detections sometimes gets wonky and enemies can move through/past you.

I, for one, know dread has been using a shield for a very long time so we should let him our ears.

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Phew is also a veteran shield holder and had some good comments:

Shield skill just needs to do something besides increase durability and ranged coverage, such as:
-Improve crushthrough resistance
-Reduce bolt penetration chance
-Reduce movement speed penalty due to shield weight

Also, shield mechanics are just glitchy. Even 100+ speed shields are waaay slower to block than manual blocking, 2-handers that are like 5 degrees off center swing around your block, projectiles warp around the shield into your head, etc.