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So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« on: May 02, 2011, 08:08:32 pm »
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My judgement is that the normal pike is far superior. Long pike is too slow to be a good anti-cav weapon. Many times you barely have enough time to turn and face an incoming cav. God forbid you kill a horse and the rider survives. Then you're certainly screwed. At least with the normal pike you have some decent melee possibility. Only use I can think for this is to form pike walls on tight spaces. It's ok as a support weapon in melee but still slowness makes that more difficult than with a normal pike. The extra reach isn't worth the speed penalty imo.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2011, 08:11:43 pm »
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The fact that it takes up three slots just kills it for me. Of course, I didn't know this until I bought it. So annoying.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2011, 08:17:01 pm »
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The fact that it takes up three slots just kills it for me. Of course, I didn't know this until I bought it. So annoying.

Hmm, so it enforces the traditional Pikeman look. (Weapon-wise.)

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That's not bad, imo.

But I had no time to test the weapon, yet.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 08:39:49 pm »
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Thw weapon has a length of 280, what did you expect? To have amazing speed?
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 09:25:24 pm »
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The whole point is that the extra lenght isn't worth the penalties vs. normal pike.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 10:35:29 pm »
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The whole point is that the extra lenght isn't worth the penalties vs. normal pike.

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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 10:57:37 pm »
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 11:16:03 pm »
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I actually really dig this weapon. Able to break a door over my teammates heads in siege, stay way back in any battle while knocking opponents off balance. I got four kills and dismounted several riders with this thing in a single life as a level 12, supporting a group of people. Will definitely continue using this.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 01:59:59 am »
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The long pike shines in formation and close team play.
 In loose team play the pike is better. Yes, you are right.
I lobbied hard to get [a] long pike added with thrust only as a pike would be, and I am glad to see it. Even I don't use it usually, there is a good time and place for it though.

Exactly as a pike was and should be.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2011, 08:35:09 am »
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Yeah except anything the long pike does the normal pike does better :D
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2011, 08:38:24 am »
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Yeah except anything the long pike does the normal pike does better :D
Except formation. You can have a three rank deep formation and still hit someone who gets right next to the front rank of  shielders.

And you know, just normal 2 rank combat but you can have more long pikes hit a single target if it attacks a lone, or hit it from further, etc, etc.
 Like I said, tight formations it is better. Loose formations/ generic teamplay, regular pike is better.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2011, 09:59:16 am »
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Longpike will be a godsend for teams who use proper formations in Strat, however, in pub play it's not worth using.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2011, 10:30:13 am »
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Longpike will be a godsend for teams who use proper formations in Strat, however, in pub play it's not worth using.
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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2011, 10:42:05 am »
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I've found the long pike perfect for those situations where your enemy is hiding on the other side of a barn and you're too lazy to move closer to them. 

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Re: So I tested the long pike for awhile...
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2011, 10:42:40 am »
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Unless you play with your clan ofc. Doh!
Duh~ ;)
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