Collisions between horses - Is there anything that can be done?

[Riddaren]

This has been suggested hundreds of times but I can't remember any developer saying it can't be done.
There must be something you can do about it. It's not like it can get any worse than it is now.

[Kafein]

Yes please, instead of nerfing cav stat, just make it harder to play. For example, by introducing realistic difficulty elements like this.

[bruce]

It's not even "realistic difficulty", it's "realistic fun". +1

[Ulter]

Dear god... how fucking amazing horsemen vs horsemen charges would be if this was implemented :O

[CrazyCracka420]

As a player who almost exclusively plays cavalry lancer, i'd be completely for this.  But I'd also want it so that the dead body of a horse flying through the air can kill a player, or horses running you over can potentially kill you as well. To balance the massive damage horses would be doing to players, you'd have to enable braceable polearms (also the stakes help to counter this as well)

[Rhaelys]

As a player who almost exclusively plays cavalry lancer, i'd be completely for this.  But I'd also want it so that the dead body of a horse flying through the air can kill a player, or horses running you over can potentially kill you as well. To balance the massive damage horses would be doing to players, you'd have to enable braceable polearms (also the stakes help to counter this as well)

Only if 140+ length polearm thrusts can "rear" a horse flying through the air as they currently do.

[Teeth]

As a player who almost exclusively plays cavalry lancer, i'd be completely for this.  But I'd also want it so that the dead body of a horse flying through the air can kill a player, or horses running you over can potentially kill you as well. To balance the massive damage horses would be doing to players, you'd have to enable braceable polearms (also the stakes help to counter this as well)

I love that people think that bracing a polearm will have any use.

[Ronin]

I love that people think that bracing a polearm will have any use.

Explain

[Teeth]

Explain

Take a round of battle. You brace your spear. I assume that makes you stationary, not able to aim it, doing crazy damage to whoever runs into it. What cav would ever run into a stationary infantryman with a spear? With the maneuver of most horses cav can turn themselves to safety even when they didn't really see you until the last moment. That is best case scenario. The scenario I expect is, they see you standing there, gallop past you and stab you in the face. Or also very likely, another cavalry guy lances you in the back while you are stuck facing one side. This isn't Total War where a line of 200 spearmen can cover a flank, this is fighting with 100 players on a server, spread out over a big area, where cav are able to go wherever they want, whenever they want. Not even to mention the ranged target that you will be

Seriously, how do you figure it would have any use at all? Bracing a polearm would reduce you to a very small version of wooden stakes, except that you can die.

[NejStark]

Would be cool, but a lot of work I'd imagine.

[bruce]

As a player who almost exclusively plays cavalry lancer, i'd be completely for this.  But I'd also want it so that the dead body of a horse flying through the air can kill a player, or horses running you over can potentially kill you as well. To balance the massive damage horses would be doing to players, you'd have to enable braceable polearms (also the stakes help to counter this as well)

You'd have to slash maneuver by a lot (like, half) - it'd be the only good balance. You saw that spear late? Well, now you are the late horseman.

On the other hand, a 2h hero / crossbowman stands firm and stabs the horse in the face? Now he is dead, too. Jumping in the horse so the attack misses won't help.

Cavalry charging in formation against an unprepared mob would be positively and rightfully terrifying.

[Riddaren]

Bump.

[Bjord]

Take a round of battle. You brace your spear. I assume that makes you stationary, not able to aim it, doing crazy damage to whoever runs into it. What cav would ever run into a stationary infantryman with a spear? With the maneuver of most horses cav can turn themselves to safety even when they didn't really see you until the last moment. That is best case scenario. The scenario I expect is, they see you standing there, gallop past you and stab you in the face. Or also very likely, another cavalry guy lances you in the back while you are stuck facing one side. This isn't Total War where a line of 200 spearmen can cover a flank, this is fighting with 100 players on a server, spread out over a big area, where cav are able to go wherever they want, whenever they want. Not even to mention the ranged target that you will be

Seriously, how do you figure it would have any use at all? Bracing a polearm would reduce you to a very small version of wooden stakes, except that you can die.

Granted all that, but it still has vital uses that warrants its implementation.

Guarding narrow flanks, chokepoints, bridges (you should be able to create a small area of collision when multiple polearm bracers group up, so you can't just walk up to them, however they can be shot), corners and whatnot. Cancelling a brace should also be quick, I don't think standing up and slightly altering your grip takes more than 2 seconds.

All in all, this could be a feature to spice up battle a bit (as well as siege).

Also, I think one should be able to aim it slightly. Turnspeed obviously needs to be moderated and you shouldn't be able to lower or raise it more than an inch or two.

[Ulter]

How about allowing spearmen to "brace" their spears by holding a stab while remaining stationary? I think this form of spear bracing would be more appropriate and useful in the current state of crpg.

[CrazyCracka420]

It would be nice if every weapon had the ability to inflict damage even when it wasn't being chambered or swung.  If someone runs into the pike you're chambering, it should do damage.