Rage incoming, you know what it's all about.

[UrLukur]

Well, its not like I want to take anybodys chances away by talking biased bullshit.

950 hours of 2 h play are a good base of experience for testing something (playing weapons exclusivly)....

Somebody not seeing the facts I mentioned is biased or stupid himself...

Hope Katana will get some love ;-)

Katanas don't need any love, it's too good. Your favorite greatswords are too good too (just like bastard swords).

It's you who is biased, and don't care for overall balance, just for your shiny german toys.

[v/onMega]

Katanas don't need any love, it's too good. Your favorite greatswords are too good too (just like bastard swords).

It's you who is biased, and don't care for overall balance, just for your shiny german toys.

Listen,
my last statement is about the comparrison between heavy bastard and katana.

But thanks for telling me what I am while not understanding simple differences of statements.

A hint for you. You unhappy with the balance? Open a thread!

2h too easy for you? Grab em and go for topping the scoreboard, just do it and send some proofs via screens.

Other than that, please read things before posting useless, offtopic stuff.

Thanks a lot.

[BlackMilk]

Katanas don't need any love, it's too good. Your favorite greatswords are too good too (just like bastard swords).

It's you who is biased, and don't care for overall balance, just for your shiny german toys.

Katana is too good?
Either you are retarded or a troll.

[H4rdn3ssKill3r]

I love how its just people who use katanas a-lot, whine to be honest, I love it now without agiwhores going around spamming themselfs to heaven while I try to kill them.
They do no damage against my plate they just run around me spamming thinking THEY are doing something only to go apeshit after somebody ''kill steals'' :/

I also like that ALL the archers arent using katanas too.
So my opinion?
I like it, but now theres the problem of nodachis....

[v/onMega]

I love how its just people who use katanas a-lot, whine to be honest, I love it now without agiwhores going around spamming themselfs to heaven while I try to kill them.
They do no damage against my plate they just run around me spamming thinking THEY are doing something only to go apeshit after somebody ''kill steals'' :/

I also like that ALL the archers arent using katanas too.
So my opinion?
I like it, but now theres the problem of nodachis....

Again smbdy who cant determine what this thread is about....

[Teeth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lueuQu62nRQ

This video makes it clear that katana stats should be something like this.

weapon length:   95
weight:                0.3
difficulty:              2
weapon speed:   168
thrust damage:   16p
swing damage:    35c

Secondary mode that allows swinging it with 1h with a speed of 180 but less damage
A special attack activated by pressing z which makes your character do a whirlwind of strikes hitting everyone in a 2m radius with about 7 hits per second.

[Ninja_Khorin]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lueuQu62nRQ

This video makes it clear that katana stats should be something like this.

weapon length:   95
weight:                0.3
difficulty:              2
weapon speed:   168
thrust damage:   16p
swing damage:    35c

Secondary mode that allows swinging it with 1h with a speed of 180 but less damage
A special attack activated by pressing z which makes your character do a whirlwind of strikes hitting everyone in a 2m radius with about 7 hits per second.

Hah, Teeth. Watch out, someone might take you seriously ;)

I love how its just people who use katanas a-lot, whine

Who else would complain, if not those that suffer from it? Except Mega of course.

Seriously, if anyone wants to see the crazy speed difference of a longsword and a katana, just grab both unloomed and swing them both for a minute. You'll notice that a katana swings an astounding 3-4 times more a minute.

Or do what Mega did. Try them out on a battlefield.

[zagibu]

Heavy Bastard and Longsword are too much alike. Drop pierce and cut by 1 on the HBS and raise pierce of the katana to 18 or 19, while making it slightly cheaper...

[Camaris]

Can´t say that Katanas should be much faster then now.
I think they are really really fast.
But i also do think that for the performance you get they are overpriced and the stab is just a joke.

[UrLukur]

I think everyone agree that Katana is overpriced. Some people just think that overpricing weeaboo stuff is fair, while other thinks it's unfair.

Next issue is it's powerlevel. Some people think it should be top tier item, while some think it should be mediocre item ( i think it should be mediocre, thomek and khorin obviously advocate top tier status).

Last issue is comparing it with bastard sword family. There are many opinion on the subject, i think half of the line need to be toned down to fit 1 slot and therefore become viable sidearm for archers (namely bastard sword and katana) while the second half need to be toned down in speed a bit (also, i feel that 2h and poles need some damage reduction, and all axes need damage reduction, current 1h axe with 37c is just too good), also i think that katana should be worse than bastard sword and it should be reflected in upkeep too.

Listen,
my last statement is about the comparrison between heavy bastard and katana.

But thanks for telling me what I am while not understanding simple differences of statements.

A hint for you. You unhappy with the balance? Open a thread!

2h too easy for you? Grab em and go for topping the scoreboard, just do it and send some proofs via screens.

Other than that, please read things before posting useless, offtopic stuff.

Thanks a lot.

I understand your statements, you think that 2h swords are currently fine with their powerlevel, and you feel that Katana need to be buffed to match their power level. And it it totally biased pov, not to mention you don't care for overall balance.

This thread is perfect for discussing bastard sword family.

Easy as pie, sadly i don't even have time to play 10 hours per week.

You too.

You are welcome.

[v/onMega]

I think everyone agree that Katana is overpriced. Some people just think that overpricing weeaboo stuff is fair, while other thinks it's unfair.

Next issue is it's powerlevel. Some people think it should be top tier item, while some think it should be mediocre item ( i think it should be mediocre, thomek and khorin obviously advocate top tier status).

Last issue is comparing it with bastard sword family. There are many opinion on the subject, i think half of the line need to be toned down to fit 1 slot and therefore become viable sidearm for archers (namely bastard sword and katana) while the second half need to be toned down in speed a bit (also, i feel that 2h and poles need some damage reduction, and all axes need damage reduction, current 1h axe with 37c is just too good), also i think that katana should be worse than bastard sword and it should be reflected in upkeep too.

I understand your statements, you think that 2h swords are currently fine with their powerlevel, and you feel that Katana need to be buffed to match their power level. And it it totally biased pov, not to mention you don't care for overall balance.

This thread is perfect for discussing bastard sword family.

Easy as pie, sadly i don't even have time to play 10 hours per week.

You too.

You are welcome.

Okay. Last thing im gonna say is, you are a pathetic fucking moron...

[Thomek]

Yep, Urlukur, you are.