Cav Story

[Grumpy_Nic]

I decided to make a 1h/Shield cav. So I started climbing up to 15 STR to be able to dish out some damage and wield proper damage. That went pretty fast. Then I started pushing AGI to get some riding and was really excited to reach 9 Agi and use my rouncey. I killed that poor thing round after round, maneuvering through hordes of enemies trying to land a good blow... masterworked weapons flashed at my horse, killing it in half a blow (due to my shitty skills at maneuvering and simply not knowing how to cav properly).

Well I thought, keep leveling, it'll get better - so I reached 12 Agi, thus getting 4 riding, still using my rouncey because it has good speed. Not much changed, in general I ended up being infantry and grinding my way up to 15 Agi.

Then something happened. I put the 5th point in riding and selected my warhorse. Suddenly my character transformed into a shiny knight, riding a goddamn tank an invincible steed! I bumped through enemy formations, throwing my foes to the ground making them cannon fodder for my fellow infantry allies! My sword went through archers like a hot knife through butter! When my rouncey had difficulties approaching an archer (dieing from arrows) my warhorse catches these arrows with its mouth and spits it back - laughing horribly while doing so!
This heavy horse changed my character from a peasant that desperately tries to get near enemies to a heroic warlord that rides down his enemies.

Thank you my dear heavy horse, I love you.

[Kafein]

Buff light cav maneuver and speed. Nuff said.

[LordLargos]

It's only a matter of time until you'll find Occitan salad coming in hot on your six unleashing a hail storm of jarids like a fighter jet firing air-air missles into the tail of your beautiful bomber.

[Casimir]

I don't see the reason to be surprised here, heavy cavalry should be better than light cav. Light cav had in the past been way to dominant.

Consider the fact you are paying more than double for a destrier than a rouncey and over three times as much for a warhorse it should surely be much better?

Warhorse best horse.

[bruce]

Buff light cav maneuver and speed. Nuff said.

Dear god arabians and stuff already behave like they have no inertia. That's why old lance angles were nerfed, the agile horses could dance around someone poking continously.

[Teeth]

Name one top notch cav that uses an armoured horse

[Kafein]

Dear god arabians and stuff already behave like they have no inertia. That's why old lance angles were nerfed, the agile horses could dance around someone poking continously.

You never played cav, did you ?

Talking about no inertia, please go out IRL, run as fast as you can and while maintaining that speed, do a U-turn on less than a square meter. Was that easy ? Was that possible ? No ? Yet that's what "humans" do at will in warband.

Compared to these aformentioned "humans", this is an accurate depiction of all horses in cRPG :
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[Espwn]

tl;dr

nerf cav.

[betard_lulz]

tl;dr

nerf cav.

twinssssss

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

Playing cavalry is indeed rather rough until you get to 15 agility, and I think the lower levels of riding should be given a little more competence but not too much because too much could create a cav meta. You have to think that if someone decided to only put 12 agility in and stay at 4 riding then that means they would be able to have either a whopping 24 or 25 strength which gives them much more ironflesh and power strike than other 18-18, 21-15, etc cav.

Below is me arguing about class balance and you should probably just not even bother reading it.

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Being one of the top tryhard successful cavmy old friends in NA_1 I have discovered that it is without a doubt easier to be a contributor to the success of your team as an infantryman than as a cavalryman on the large majority of maps. If you just go with some ironflesh, some armor, and a steel pick as a 1H or a longsword as a 2H the amount of slaughtering you can do doesn't require nearly the same attentiveness and carefulness that cavalry does IMO.

With cavalry you have to constantly be watching the slightest movement of every player in an area to see if they see you, don't see you, or are pretending to not see you, and if you mess up even once at judging this you are either halfway dead or totally fucked.

[bruce]

You never played cav, did you ?

I did and the normal horse line was always inferior to the agile horse line; the sarranid (now arabian) was always the "top" horse for lancing and no other came near.

Talking about no inertia, please go out IRL, run as fast as you can and while maintaining that speed, do a U-turn on less than a square meter. Was that easy ? Was that possible ? No ? Yet that's what "humans" do at will in warband.

Because people have no inertia in Warband, horses shouldn't either? I don't agree with that particular line of reasoning. Especially I don't agree that "cheap" horses should be as effective as top of the line horses.

[ROHYPNOL]

I decided to make a 1h/Shield cav. So I started climbing up to 15 STR to be able to dish out some damage and wield proper damage. That went pretty fast. Then I started pushing AGI to get some riding and was really excited to reach 9 Agi and use my rouncey. I killed that poor thing round after round, maneuvering through hordes of enemies trying to land a good blow... masterworked weapons flashed at my horse, killing it in half a blow (due to my shitty skills at maneuvering and simply not knowing how to cav properly).

Well I thought, keep leveling, it'll get better - so I reached 12 Agi, thus getting 4 riding, still using my rouncey because it has good speed. Not much changed, in general I ended up being infantry and grinding my way up to 15 Agi.

Then something happened. I put the 5th point in riding and selected my warhorse. Suddenly my character transformed into a shiny knight, riding a goddamn tank an invincible steed! I bumped through enemy formations, throwing my foes to the ground making them cannon fodder for my fellow infantry allies! My sword went through archers like a hot knife through butter! When my rouncey had difficulties approaching an archer (dieing from arrows) my warhorse catches these arrows with its mouth and spits it back - laughing horribly while doing so!
This heavy horse changed my character from a peasant that desperately tries to get near enemies to a heroic warlord that rides down his enemies.

Thank you my dear heavy horse, I love you.

Damn are you new? From the sounds of it you are, unstoppable. Screenshot your kdr so we can really see your damage?

[Grumpy_Nic]

Naw I'm not new. I've spent many of my 20+ gens as xbower. I played cav once a long time ago but that was lancer.
I was just a bit surprised that the change from rouncey to warhorse is so extreme, I mean I knew it would be better... but hell it felt like godmode. Wanted to share that experience, thats all.

Of course I dont have good score at every map cuz I still suck as cav but it got way easier. Will post a screenshot when I remember taking one while playing.

[EponiCo]

but not too much because too much could create a cav meta.

And also, take forum posts with a grain of salt or they could become meta-foric.

[ROHYPNOL]

Naw I'm not new. I've spent many of my 20+ gens as xbower. I played cav once a long time ago but that was lancer.
I was just a bit surprised that the change from rouncey to warhorse is so extreme, I mean I knew it would be better... but hell it felt like godmode. Wanted to share that experience, thats all.

Of course I dont have good score at every map cuz I still suck as cav but it got way easier. Will post a screenshot when I remember taking one while playing.

Just messing with you, but was talking about website kdr just to really see how good you were doing