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steel shield?
« on: April 08, 2013, 04:07:52 am »
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I figured this would be the place to ask why its so expensive and the highest level shield?
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 04:49:29 am »
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Probably just from decent coverage and high resistance. It can take a huuuuge beating against any non-shieldbreaking weapon. You'll almost always just die before it breaks.
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 06:10:30 am »
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I have literally never seen a steel shield break to a non-shield breaking weapon.
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 08:14:40 am »
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I had a +3 steel shield with 5 and 7 shield skill on different gens. It is basically a compromise between the steel covered round shield and the huscarl shield. Amazing coverage , very high durability, but a very slow. With high shield skill (7+) you can take many hits, even from a 2 handed axe. Hardly anyone uses it, but if you are going for a build with high shield skill try it out before dropping the idea. I know people in the duel server have tested it and you can catch HUNDREDS of arrows. That's multiple archers with 2 full slots firing at only you.

The speed rating is very low, and makes it tough to use well with only 6 shield skill. If you can block quickly enough though, it is hands down the strongest shield in the game. Battle server matches don't last long enough to really take full advantage of it. In strategus, no army ever has them. But on the siege server and DTV, the steel shield is godly. You will run out of patience or lose area control due to your team before the shield breaks. 100% of the time.

Also the model is very shiny and gives you a unique appearance in game!  :D

I'd like to see it rebalanced since so few players use it, but if done correctly it is not weak at all.
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 09:14:21 am »
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Because it's fucking unbreakable... even with the minimum skill to use it, it will catch iffinite arrows or infinite non-shield breaking weapon.

Shield breaking weapon will still take a lot of hit to destroy it.

Also it will resist most hit from crushthrough weapon, except maybe a +3 great maul used by someone with 27 STR or more.

Downside, it's slow and it fucking weight a ton, slowing your movement speed a lot.
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 10:22:07 am »
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I figured this would be the place to ask why its so expensive and the highest level shield?

That's a good question, and one I'd like to ask the balancers myself. I wouldn't mind it being extremely slow, 1.5x the weight of a Great Maul, and lacking in width and hp if was at least competitively priced. Thing is, though, the Steel Shield by itself costs more than the 1h + shield together of many shielders and costs more than any 2h that isn't a greatsword.

As far as I can see, there is literally no point to using one in any kind of serious build, because if you have the 6 shield skill required to use it, you would be better off with a normal Board Shield, Heavy Board Shield, or Huscarl Shield if you are in the market for a very tough shield.

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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 11:50:40 am »
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Oh yeah, I totally forgot that in my post: THE WEIGHT. This helps to lower the chance of Crushthrough, as Dach mentioned, if I'm not mistaken; it happens more rarely for Great Maul and pretty much never for Maul/Mallet (unless they're like, ABSURD STR/PS).
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 11:53:42 am by Malaclypse »
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 11:52:46 am »
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 01:11:29 pm »
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I have 7 shield skill now. Ill report my findings!
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 05:26:11 pm »
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I love the steel shield, man.  It is a bit costly, I'm not sure if its worth it...but if you have the money it is.

I had a +3 steel shield once and I felt like fucking Captain America.  It was a lot of fun.  I could hold a flag on siege defense or a chokepoint forever until teamies arrived or the 2h spammers starting making mistakes and I could wollup them.

The trick is to recognize it is slow.  Don't try to flinch block...turtle up until you know you can hit.  Its main strength of course is its durability, so focus on using that aspect.

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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2013, 08:50:30 pm »
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Whats funny is its weighs 12.5 but you need agi for it.
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 03:00:26 am »
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Yep stop remainding us AGI suck.. we already know it!  :rolleyes: :lol:
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 04:04:54 am »
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Yep stop remainding us AGI suck.. we already know it!  :rolleyes: :lol:

i dont know, as a shielder it def helps. you can get around people easier after they do stupid swings
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 04:45:13 am »
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I owned a +3 steel shield and it's AMAZING

My favorite part was when people with axe raged at me and stoppend chopping my shield.. (had 9 shield skill :P )

So the new response to ranged ragers is not "get a shield", it is "learn to chamber ranged nub!"
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Re: steel shield?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2013, 03:14:03 pm »
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I bought a steel shield because of this thread. It better be good.  :D