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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2013, 06:07:46 am »
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Give them a weight of 60.

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 07:04:15 am »
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Yes! More things to laugh at. Seems like a good addition.
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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2013, 07:20:40 am »
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nah its just going to make teams and players camp more, like the old ladder days.

they should take up more slots.

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2013, 07:51:11 am »
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Stakes are amazing......finally a feasible cav defense for  archers and those guys...Though they do have the problem of killing ANY cav as soon as the cav touches the stake(friendly or enemy)


I propose that it matter on the speed the cav hits the stake

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2013, 08:00:49 am »
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Ozin demanded horse blood for his creation, so the insta kill for this patch. Maybe he lets me do a more sophisticated approach to damaging horses or does it himself next patch. I think some function of horse speed at the moment of intersecting with the stake prop, horse armor, horse anim, maybe riding skill and positioning. One the other hand, math - not even once. So we just might throw some dices instead.

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2013, 08:10:07 am »
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Ozin demanded horse blood for his creation, so the insta kill for this patch. Maybe he lets me do a more sophisticated approach to damaging horses or does it himself next patch. I think some function of horse speed at the moment of intersecting with the stake prop, horse armor, horse anim, maybe riding skill and positioning. One the other hand, math - not even once. So we just might throw some dices instead.

Instant kill seems fine to me. Cav shouldn't complain, and if I had it my way it would be instant kill for riding full speed into any immovable objects like walls and trees, not just stakes.
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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2013, 08:18:51 am »
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Give hitting stakes a normal, standard damage then make it HEAVILY dependent on speed. Imagine it like a reverse bump.

Also, for the love if god, don't allow the stakes to kill until they are fully deployed.

Awesome addition. Love it.

edit: apparently, steaks are something you eat, steaks are something you impale stuff with. Woops.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 08:27:43 am by Arathian »
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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2013, 08:56:11 am »
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I like the concept of stakes but they cover a large area for one slot item. Either increase slots requirement (3 imo) or reduce size by 2 or 3 times.
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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2013, 09:29:03 am »
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I think alot of it is because horses insta-die even at 1 mph, but im guessing thats a coding limitation rather than intentional so it will probably get balanced via upkeep or some such.

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2013, 09:53:39 am »
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That would be an excellent moment to buff the heavy glance !

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2013, 11:32:30 am »
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Superb idea best patch need adjustment. Mod alive.
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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2013, 02:59:38 pm »
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Give them a weight of 60.

Honestly I think this is a better solution than just increasing slots. If you leave the slots at one and then increase the weight, than these are still feasible defense mechanisms for archers and what-not, but it should be obvious that an archer is going to have a hell of a time carrying a bundle of sticks on their back up the side of the mountain to their camping position.

Also, on top of all of the other threads complaining about this, do make a maximum per team or per player to be placed in a given round.

Just my two cents.

tldr; slots is a balancing mechanism, weight is a realism mechanism. gogo weight increase.

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2013, 03:06:05 pm »
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Honestly I think this is a better solution than just increasing slots. If you leave the slots at one and then increase the weight, than these are still feasible defense mechanisms for archers and what-not, but it should be obvious that an archer is going to have a hell of a time carrying a bundle of sticks on their back up the side of the mountain to their camping position.

Also, on top of all of the other threads complaining about this, do make a maximum per team or per player to be placed in a given round.

Just my two cents.

tldr; slots is a balancing mechanism, weight is a realism mechanism. gogo weight increase.

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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2013, 03:32:45 pm »
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I think you meant unintentionally?  Even if it was intentionally, it was a good pun.

Also, 1 slot seems awfully low for this...I think it should be 2 slot like a siege shield, or if it's 1 slot, reduce the size in half. 

Also LOL at the insta kill on plated cav walking as slow as possible into it.
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Re: What's with all the stake hate?
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2013, 05:34:31 pm »
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This should definitely be 2 slot. 
Also, buff siege shield.

Yes, its a good defense to protect archers from cav, but that doesn't mean that archers should necessarily be the ones to carry them.  Make them 2 slot and use some teamwork!