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Class... can't find the best for me:(
« on: March 11, 2013, 07:28:35 pm »
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hey guys :lol:
I am searching the best class for me since a long time but I can't find one.
I hope that u guys could help me to find the best class for me:)
Maybe you could post some classes with advantages and disadvantages or so..
Just help me to find one Pleeease :shock:
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 08:13:58 pm »
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hey guys :lol:
I am searching the best class for me since a long time but I can't find one.
I hope that u guys could help me to find the best class for me:)
Maybe you could post some classes with advantages and disadvantages or so..
Just help me to find one Pleeease :shock:

Spearman
(no shield / or shield if you choose)

Equipment:
War Spear or Ashwood Pike

Advantages:
Scare the shit out of cavalry, long reach against infantry, poke at people too busy blocking other people, fast moving

Disadvantages:
Weak against shielders (unless you have good footwork and blocking), not as powerful as two handers, ashwood pike has only 2 attack directions.

Armor: anything from heavier leather to medium grade chainmail is fitting

Build:
I have used this build for a while now, it's for level 30

STR 18
AGI 18

Power strike 6
Ironflesh 6 (might be overkill but I love it, have for 3 years)
Athletics 6
Shield OR Riding 5 (you can choose)
Weapon Master 6


144 Pole proficiency and 75 in any other category of your choice, or just go all pole. I find the 75 prof in 2h or 1h actually useful for close quarters, like inside of rooms where the spear might be blocked by objects or hit the walls.

I also have a "Way of the Spear" guide that can be found here:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/guides/dalfador%27s-%27way-of-the-spear%27-guide/
« Last Edit: March 11, 2013, 08:22:34 pm by Dalfador »
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 08:45:44 pm »
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Wow! I thank you so much... I want to hear much of such answers, would be great!
So again, I am really thankful... How do you think about a blunt shielder (e.g. Military Hammer)
I was thinking to go for this class because it might be very effective with a blunt weapon in melee especially against good armored --> You can knockdown them and then the finally hit :D
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 08:47:40 pm »
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Blunt shielder is excellent. I play atm 15/21 with an iberian mace. Always laugh when you knockdown people. :D

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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 08:58:14 pm »
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I will help you with what I can, describing the different classes to you.  Perhaps some of the info will help you decide, seeing what appeals to you.

The first advice I give is to not choose one class, but make a few alts.  Play them all and see which ones you like.  If you like more than one, you can play any class you like.

Another option, if you wanted to stick with one class but you get bored, is to make a hybrid class.  This way you can do different play styles with one character.

That being said, here are my descriptions:

MELEE CLASSES
Melee is where the “action” is.  Weapons flailing, and bodies falling all around.  It’s the most popular aspect of the game, and the majority of players are some kind of melee character.

Two Handed:
   Two Handed characters are very good at melee.  They have a good selection of weapons to choose from, and you can use a variety of builds and still be successful.  For example, you can have a faster character with a fast weapon, a balanced character, a slow character with a slow powerful/crushthrough weapon….what they all have in common is that 2h weapons use nice in-game animations useful for cutting swaths through the enemy. 
   A downside of Two Handed might be that you have to learn to manual block pretty well in order to be effective.  For newer players especially, taking on one opponent at a time can be a great challenge.
   Some say that Two Handed characters are the best damage-dealing/dueling/Hero melee characters in the game.

Polearms:
   Polearm characters can also be very good in melee.  They can be compared to Two Handed characters in many ways (good damage, 2-slot weapons mostly, need to manual block well) but they are a little different.  One advantage of polearms is the weapon selection is very varied.  You can take some king of poleaxe and play like a Two Handed character, wading into melee.  Or you can take a pike or long spear and play a support/anti-cav role.  Or you can take a shield and spear and play as a hoplite. 
   With polearms you also must learn to manual block well, or die.  Some polearms only have 2 attack directions, so its best to fight with your team if you’re using one of these.
   Some say that Polearms are the most versatile class, and rival Two Handed characters in melee combat effectiveness.

One Hand/Shielder:
   One Hand/Shield characters are invaluable on the battlefield.  They are typically very survivable, able to defend against multiple opponents.  They are also very useful for charging in to chokepoints or defending against ranged attacks.  One does not have to learn how to manual block at first, which allows even newer players to be effective on the field.  At the same time, taking on several opponents with skill allows experienced players to shine with this class as well.  Each damage type (slash/blunt/pierce/shield-breaker) is well represented in the One Handed weapons, with several great weapons to choose from of each type.
     The greatest disadvantage of a one hand/shield character is the reduced range and damage of the weapons.  They are not as long or as damaging as 2h/pole weapons on average.  Another disadvantage is that many shielders, since they have a shield, never learn how to manual block and become sitting ducks once the shield breaks.  They also tend to be a bit slower than the other classes because of the shield weight.
   Some may say that 1h/shield characters are the most durable and survivable characters.


RANGED CLASSES

Ranged characters can be a lot of fun to play.  Nailing a long shot is very rewarding, and head-shots are exceedingly lethal.  A good ranged character is a valuable asset to the team.

Archers have a good variety of bows and arrows to choose from, but only a few of those choices are viable on the battlefield.  They shoot fast, and are great for taking out horses and lighter armored infantry.  Bodkin arrows can be effective against heavier armor as well.

Crossbows shoot slower than bows, but the damage is much greater.  There are less varieties of ammo to choose from, but they all deal pierce damage…so they can seriously wound even armored targets.  They take a long time to reload.

Throwing weapons do a good amount of damage and have a fast rate of fire…but ammo and range are very limited.  They are a good choice for a hybrid or skirmishing character, though many players have made a full time profession out of hurling axes and lances.


CAVALRY CLASSES

You need to have a lot of money to play a cavalry class.  The upkeep for a horse can be quite costly.

Cav can be really fun though.  You can zoom around the battlefield and do a great amount of damage….however since you are moving so fast people can deal greater damage to you as well.  Cav can be very lethal, especially if the enemy is unaware of their approach.  Also, they can make great support characters, bumping and trampling  the enemy at the right moment that lets a teamie get the kill.

If you want to play a cav character, I recommend using a weapon type you like as a melee character.  One Handed Cav, Two Handed Cav, and Polearm Cav are all viable options.  Also, you will be de-horsed or dis-mounted often enough that you want to make sure you like the type of weapon you are using on foot as well as on horse.

The classes of mounted ranged: Horse Archer, Horse Crossbow, and Horse Thrower I am not too familiar with.  These I would recommend for a more advanced player.  Some call these the bane of C-RPG for their tendency to kite, run away, and delay the end of a round.  However, they can be as rewarding and as useful as any other class if played with skill.





So yeah.  I recommend alts and/or making a hybrid character. 
Also, check the beginners guides section for builds and more detailed info.
Good luck!

Other players, feel free to correct or critique my summaries.  :)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2013, 09:07:51 pm by Garison »

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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 09:19:51 pm »
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First many thanks for the answers now. Garison u  :mrgreen:beast  :mrgreen: I think you spent much time to write this that's awesome ;) Only critism (however I have to write  :idea:) I play cRPG since a looooong time and I am good manual blocker i think:) But I am glad to have a better knownledge of all classes after your post^^. Donib I am really lucky that you are agreed with Blunt Shielder y :mrgreen: I think it's one of the best shielder arts at cRPG :)) So glad to hear such good answers! Maybe some others oculd post their favourite classes here amd maybe why they like these classes so much :)
A great thanks for now!
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 09:20:41 pm »
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Wow! I thank you so much... I want to hear much of such answers, would be great!
So again, I am really thankful... How do you think about a blunt shielder (e.g. Military Hammer)
I was thinking to go for this class because it might be very effective with a blunt weapon in melee especially against good armored --> You can knockdown them and then the finally hit :D

I was trying to be fair and unbiased in my assessment...but I think 1h/shield is one of the best ways to go.  Using a blunt or pierce weapon will ensure you are putting the hurt on other players.

If you want to be REALLY deadly, try the following technique:
Knock them down, hit them on the ground, then kick them as they are getting up, and then hit them over the head again.  Few can survive this. :)  DON'T TELL ANYONE!

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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 09:22:36 pm »
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You can do the following too. Knock them down, hit once, kick him in the arse, hit again.
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 09:27:44 pm »
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try simcity or counterstrike

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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2013, 09:36:36 pm »
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Haha kick technic is best technic,anyway... but at the moment I play an 1h arbalester! it's funny and I hope it stays funny. IF not, I would respec to blunt shielder:)
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2013, 10:14:10 pm »
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Hmm I believe there is one more thing to be touched upon about classes. Some classes require a high individual skill and some require a good tactical play. Cav for instance, can be more about instincts compared to the other classes. You have to see an opportunity and finish the job quickly, or decide to not interfere if you sense it's a death trap. Overall I believe this gut instinct is nearly the same for all skirmisher classes. Those classes I believe offer a more tactical approach, and require more possibilites for you to outsmart your opponent. If you think this kind of a class will be your cup of tea, I'd highly suggest trying it for a gen at least. Cavalry (ranged cav too) and throwers fit into this skirmisher catagory I think.

Whereas this kind of tactical can be beneficial to all kind of classes, it is possible to depend on individual skill as an infantry most of the time. If you feel like self-centered skill suits you more, I'd suggest trying those classes. Many infantry fall to this catagory.

I also see support-infantry classes to be in the middle ground of these. Those classes are thrower, pikeman, hoplite and maulers as I can think of.

As for archer/crossbowman, I don't really know about these.

I hope this also helps :P
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2013, 10:18:31 pm »
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Hehe Fredom, after all the years in cRPG you still can't find a suiting class? :D

I think you did pretty good as archer/2h, no?
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2013, 10:32:23 pm »
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That's it, Ziath. I can't find a for me special class and the other problem is that I am doing well with every class. I'm lvl 25 arbalester at the moment since yesterday and i had already often scores like 20-4 or 12:1 and today I had with peasents armor just my Nordic Short War Sword 12-4.. That's the problem I think, that I do well with evry class.
And why did you say afelter all the YEARS??! :O
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2013, 11:09:52 pm »
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That's it, Ziath. I can't find a for me special class and the other problem is that I am doing well with every class. I'm lvl 25 arbalester at the moment since yesterday and i had already often scores like 20-4 or 12:1 and today I had with peasents armor just my Nordic Short War Sword 12-4.. That's the problem I think, that I do well with evry class.
And why did you say afelter all the YEARS??! :O

Dunno, just seen you on cRPG for quite some time, and I reckoned you were an oldmy old friend like the rest of us :P
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Re: Class... can't find the best for me:(
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 08:22:53 am »
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Haha yes you are right. I play cRPG for a long time like most of the players
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