so are shielders the strongest class now or what?

[bavvoz]

I think its quite balanced. Im probably gonna be hated by some for saying this but if u get beat by a shielder/2h/pole/peasant or whatever class u call op, perhaps its so simple as the other player was better than u.

[Kafein]

Please, all players feeling shielders became too powerful for some reason, create a shielder alt if you don't have one and play it. I asked Tindel (he respecced afaik) about it and he said it was fresh and relaxing or something close.

If you like it better, good, that might partially fix the metagame. If you don't, then maybe it allowed you to see for yourself what actually happened.

[Zanze]

We do less damage, at less range, and at less movement speed then two-handers. In return, we get directional immunity to arrows and if you know when to block, a refillable hp bar.

The reasons shielders top the charts is because we live longer compared to 2h's who are usually peppered by arrows, or easy targets for spearmen. Live longer = more score. Stop bringing swords, bring axes or mauls.

Also, the screenshot happens to be biased as well. Clan working together would alter the score a tad.

[oprah_winfrey]

Stop bringing swords, bring axes or mauls.

Then you just die to the people who brought swords...

[Phew]

Then you just die to the people who brought swords...

If only 2h swords didn't take up 4 slots....Then 2h-ers could bring an axe/morningstar/mallet/fauchard/shield to handle shielders or cav or archers. Shielders figured out a long time ago how to bring multiple tools for multiple jobs, but some 2h-ers must be so attached to their lightsabers, they couldn't imagine ever sheathing it.

[Tindel]

Yeah i planned for a long time to get lvl35 as a 2hander and be a killing machine(spammer) But i have shelved that plan, i think i will aim for enjoyment and variety instead!
Right now im playing 1h/shield for first time in 11 generations, its a bit to relearn thats for sure xD

Pros: Can block several strikes at once, can block ranged, short weapon (warhammer) means i dont get crowded by teammates anymore(thank you)

Cons: Dismal range, weird animations i have to get used too, no sense of swing sweetspots, shield slows me down

btw warhammer is OP, nerf me

[Malaclypse]

Yeah i planned for a long time to get lvl35 as a 2hander and be a killing machine(spammer) But i have shelved that plan, i think i will aim for enjoyment and variety instead!

Awwwwww yeah. I'm currently 18/24 polearm (119)/1h (125) hybrid, and am leaning towards maxing my WM and boosting polearm up to 125 and getting 93 2h for versatility to help to keep me from getting bored with the build. I feel like if you're building high level, you've got to work some hybridization in just to keep the toon enjoyable to play. I really wish now that I had invested a few points into Power Throw so I could get up to 4-5 PT @ Level 35, but I guess there's always training lessons.

[oprah_winfrey]

If only 2h swords didn't take up 4 slots....Then 2h-ers could bring an axe/morningstar/mallet/fauchard/shield to handle shielders or cav or archers. Shielders figured out a long time ago how to bring multiple tools for multiple jobs, but some 2h-ers must be so attached to their lightsabers, they couldn't imagine ever sheathing it.

I was just addressing what Zan said, which was stop bringing swords. He didn't say bring an axe and a sword. Personally, when I play 2h I have very few problems with most shielders, all you need to do is hilt slash, s key, and kick. Not to mention in a team fight, you don't need an axe and on a 1v1 any shielder that is worth bringing an axe against is just going to put their shield on their back anyway.

[Lemmy_Winks]

Ive played both 2h and sheilder. Even thogh my sheilder is more so a gimp sheilder cause hes just the melle form of my cav build sheilding is certainly much easier theres no question of it. If you use a decent sheild the only way you get hit is if you bite on a feign, and you have to be really bad for that to happen. Heck i use a steel sheild which is slow as shit(making it alot easier to get hit) and that never really happens to me, just hold block until you hear your shield get hit, dont rely on the visual which may deceive you. So ya they cant hit you if your decent and as a 2h i was always less used to blocking against 1 handers than 2 handers, it seemed harder with the overhand and right swing or w/e so its harder in that regaurd too. And ya an axe or a steel pick hits really hard the damage isnt really a problem.

The only problem you might have is if you dont have enough atlethics and they backpedal spam you or kicks can be somewhat of an issue if you use a short weapon. Given me beinga cav build i have some athletics problems with backpedal spam and with using a steel pick kicking can be a problem, but a pure sheilder spec shouldnt have either of these problems as a sheilder should have alot of athletics and should carry mor ethan 1 weapon, if i remember bale carris a blunt weapon for tin cans, an axe for sheilds, and a longer sword for backpedal spammers. The way i see it sheilder is a more noob friendly build that is easy to play but maybe a bit more difficult to get a larger number of kills due to weapon length. 2 handers are much harder to play but if your good the class has more potential to get more kills.

[Osiris]

so what im getting from this thread is this

2handers saying SHIELDING IS EZ MODE OP
Shielders saying 2H IS EZ MODE OP

The era of 2h heroes being by far the best class is over. we don't want to return to that

The game is finely balanced in my opinion. A nerf to shielder's would be stupid.

Personally by far the best class ive used for killing and points was 27-12 with a mighty GLB. As a shielder i usually do ok sometimes great sometimes terrible but i always feel more useful to my team (unless im a longspear guy ^^). I have more fun on a lot of maps as a shielder, to me standing in the middle of a clusterfuck (like the map with the bridge) and timing when to hit and when to shield is the most fun i have <3 deciding when i can open up and hit that guy attacking my team mate without getting my ass speared or hit in return is intense and not as easy as you thing. When i am 2h im limited to rambo flanks or high str high armour.

Other people find 2h the height of skill and fun and others pike and others pew pewing, thats what makes cRPG battles so much fun

[oprah_winfrey]

sword and board, two handers, and poles are pretty balanced IMO.

8 pages later, and people are beginning to agree.

[Tristan]

I think people stacked up polearms because they finally realised it was the only way to counter the powerful cavalry.

[Ronin]

I think people stacked up polearms because they finally realised it was the only way to counter the powerful cavalry.

Archers are dangerous too.

[Jarlek]

I think people stacked up polearms because they finally realised it was the only way to counter the powerful cavalry.

PT 8 and MW throwing axes or jarids.

Come bump me

[EyeBeat]

People are saying shielders are not a rambo class but myself and Matey when he was a shielder almost always played it like it was.