Strategus Enhancer

[Erasmas]

My goodness, Kinn, what happened to you?

I am not complaining. I do not WANT anything from you, and the word "demand" is really far-fetched.  I am just asking simple questions, and you are pouring the bucket of your frustrations on me. I would like to know what I am singing up for before I sign up for it. Is that wrong?

I have no doubts that this script is good quality, well thought of, and that you guys spent a lot of time on it. I am willing to use it and appreciate it. I am just concerned about the security issues and whether this thing is legit. No less and no more... And I think it really is OK to discuss it publicly.

I think you took my concerns too personally. Just put yourself in my shoes - would you have similar thoughts? Honestly - I did not expect that kind of answer from you. Simple "No, it is not finally approved by almighty chadz yet" and "No, I will not look into this data, cross my heart" would really be sufficient to increase the credibility of this project.

[kinngrimm]

ok then lets see

i hearby seldomly swear not to use the data collected through this tool for my own personal or virtual strategus gain.
I have no interest in gaining an unfair advantage over others.
This tool had been developed to enrich the overall strategus experience and was reported in for front before the development started, during the development and afterwards to devs and admins, which also saw the good as bad potential within.
The best and closest thing to a confirmation that this tool is allowed to be used is by the statement of chadz a) in my sig b) posted above by Guika and c) while we used it more less tehn efficently over the last months now to test it with the knowledge of the devs/admins we ahven't been banned doing so.

With this latest version we improved the way user interaction are needed so that automation process are less usable and also the need for keys i was creating before and then needed to hand out is now complettly gone.

I appologize if my madness you felt Erasmus was only focused onto you, it is but aimed onto a general mindset i saw with this agreed controversial development being displayed so many times and also used to make diplomatic points and the effort to excuse own missdeeds. I have no and have never had any evil intent with this tool, but wanted to be able to give the community something back and also proof a point that we the community are able to help with the development of strategus.

[GuiKa]

New version of the site & script :

site :
 -Corrected a bug, the cooldown for the post was not set properly.

script:
  -Corrected a bug, the cooldown for the post was not get properly.

Yeah double bug on the same attribute >_>.

To update your script you can either delete it and install it again or use the update feature of your addon. (current version is 0.27).

edit : still a problem on client side to draw the heroes: working on this atm.

Everything fixed, should work fine now : Don't forget to update the script => 0.27.

[Erasmas]

i hearby seldomly swear not to use the data collected through this tool for my own personal or virtual strategus gain, or to give access to such data to anyone else.

Is that ok? GuiKa, you too?

[GuiKa]

I swear that i will never use my privileged access to the database to get myself, my faction or my allies any advantage on strategus or c-rpg. With the exception of getting in big strategus battle using it as leverage  .

I will also never grant access to anyone but me. Even if there is other developers in the future for the server side (which i really doubt) there is no reason they should be able to access it and they won't.

For the security : It is safe. Really safe.

Edit:

A thing that happen few month ago :  I have a real life friend in wolves with me who is playing strategus. He could not do stuff during the week because of college and one day kinngrimm needed him to transport stuff from a city to another, this was necessary to prepare the next attack on GODDAM FUCKING HORRIBLE Slezkh Castle (not sure if it was this castle actually).
I called my friend on his cell to tell him to do that but he didn't have any internet connection he could use, and the problem was he had all the stuff transferred on him already. Then i told kinngrimm "I'll just connect on his account and move him to the city, not a big deal." as i know his password. And kinngrimm responded something like "No it's multi accouting even if you know him irl etc etc blah blah blah grey order got banned because of this etc etc...." and i was a little mad because i perfectly know how to do multi accounting without being caught.

And this was how we got stuck with tons of stuff on an afk member for almost a week. And that only because Kinngrimm will never cheat, dam you Kinngrimm.

The moral is : Even if i was a cheater and interested in "winning" strategus any information i would get wouldn't be usable unless kinngrimm uses it (wolves is a  dictatorship). And i really doubt he would.

[Knute]

I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about the LOS part but the job/bounty/quest board and part where you can set your own official diplomatic relations is going to be really nice. 

And yeah, it's a 3rd party program at the moment, but so was the strat map we're using now. So maybe the less controversial parts might get integrated into the official strategus website at some point too.

Bottom line, people who play strat have made lots of good suggestions about how to improve it and now members of the community with the skills are stepping up and being proactive about making the game better, so I think that's a good thing.


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[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

The moral is : I like accountsharing

Fixed. 

[GuiKa]

The moral is : I like accountsharing

i am not fun and i like to post for nothing.

-Fixed bug on this thread causing people to miss what they wanted to say.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

i am not fun and i like to post for nothing.


-Fixed bug on this thread causing people to miss what they wanted to say.

Whatever, you still basically admit to not seeing any real issue with using some other guys strat account.

[GuiKa]

Whatever, you still basically admit to not seeing any real issue with using some other guys strat account.

I will not argue with you you don't seem worth it. End of discussion.

[Lt_Anders]

As I said in that other thread about this, I'll never believe in LOS sharing, but that's my personal opinion. But as far as the REST of what it does(which I haven't tried cause it feels like sucking on me so I gave up), Creating an armor(or in other words, pre selected gear) is a plus. The in game diplomacy is alright as it's modified by the factions so it can say whatever the hell it wants.

But the most interesting, is the Billboards for jobs. Seems almost RPG ish and I LOVE that, as a merc. Hey we pay you to hit this caravan: ON IT!
Now to convice the mega blocks to break down so that we can have lots of small factions and lots of merc jobs!

[Erasmas]

A thing that happen few month ago :  I have a real life friend in wolves with me who is playing strategus. He could not do stuff during the week because of college and one day kinngrimm needed him to transport stuff from a city to another, this was necessary to prepare the next attack on GODDAM FUCKING HORRIBLE Slezkh Castle (not sure if it was this castle actually).
I called my friend on his cell to tell him to do that but he didn't have any internet connection he could use, and the problem was he had all the stuff transferred on him already. Then i told kinngrimm "I'll just connect on his account and move him to the city, not a big deal." as i know his password. And kinngrimm responded something like "No it's multi accouting even if you know him irl etc etc blah blah blah grey order got banned because of this etc etc...." and i was a little mad because i perfectly know how to do multi accounting without being caught.

And this was how we got stuck with tons of stuff on an afk member for almost a week. And that only because Kinngrimm will never cheat, dam you Kinngrimm.

I love you. That is exactly why we promote the official, reasonable, limited and accessible only to high-ranking clan leaders mechanism for management of clanmates accounts.   I would give you +1000 if I could.

And thank you for the clear message. Okay, lets give this shit a try 

[Butan]

The timer on upload/download can be manually by-passed if you close/open a new tab, you can then click upload/download again.

I would suggest you find a way that the timer is fixed to your account in your website/inside the internet files/whatever (if possible) so that you have no possibility to overload the server you are hosting those files on. Atm you can.



Also I'm sure 5 minutes is still a bit too "spammable", you dont need your clanmates to give you information on so close a timeframe, you could put it between 10 - 60 minutes.
The LOS sharing shouldnt be about showing "movement" on a minute per minute basis but more like "this is what I saw today" (much less lag problem for your server and a bit less "power" to that feature), and if you need precise deplacement vector of such and such dots, get additionnal information yourself by the classic way (communicating with your faction).

[Erasmas]

I have a major problem with installing the script. This is the installation on my second computer. The browser I use is the Firefox. Script seems to be installed, but somehow it does nothing, ie. I do not see any buttons for upload or download on Strat map page....

Help!

[kinngrimm]

also on firefox.
atm the script doesn't work smoothly with the inventory script of dotnet, i needed to disable dotnets script so i can see the buttons on top. There but are 2 "start" for uploading and downlaoding, when clicked those up/downloads take palces. Works ok from what i can tell. But the text left of those Buttons is too "dark" hardly readable please chose a lighter/brighter color for those.

still havent tested fully the other options will come back here to give results.