[Quincy] Quincy Clan [Recruiting Strat Players EU]

[Vovka]

Less rules! more hate! 

[En_Dotter]

Rules will be simple i suppose. Since dont have a lot of players most probable rule is that defender wins so we dont get teleported. So basically most probably no flag capping and if flag capping occurs, attackers must let defenders put the flags up and the defending commander will get his ass torn apart in TS.
This is only thing that came to my mind but i havent had time to discuss it with others. So this is only a blueprint and not the actual rule yet.

Just common sense rules so all of us can enjoy and fight more. ;)

[kinngrimm]

A few thoughts on neutrality

Neutrality maybe a chosen stance, but only if the surrounding factions allow it, you can keep it. Otherwise those who pressure you may drive you into the enemies camp. As with clan sizes it is also with allies, strenght through unity, before you would get wiped you will find an ally to help you(if only by action and not offically by treaty).

If you have a NAP, you are not neutral as you give him the chance not to fear you and no need to have more troops ready to defend against you, if you have a Trade Agreement your are not neutral, as you already support someone economicly and have an implied NAP(the one thing doesnt really work without the other, again if not on paper then by action or better NONE-action).

True Neutrality in diplomacy has no permanent strings attached, only in short term deals lays the ballance.

True Neutrality on rosters can be seen, if your lads will show up allways in equal numbers on both sides of battles of others, otherwise factions will tend to think you are biased.

Aslong your area is not contested at all, people tend to think you are not neutral to your sorounding factions, therefor i would advice to change the area where you start from strategus to strategus, to proove your neutrality, as then those factions sorrounding you then will see how you deal with them and may accept you as those factions do where you are now do. Otherwise you will may strengthen over time the view point i just tried to show and will most likely end up for real permanently in one block.

I do see room for neutrality in this game, as i told you when you started in Yaalen area, it is but the most complicated thing to do, because of the black and white, 0 or 1, for or against us mentality of many people.

Mercs who had been neutral still in 1.0 and still 2.0, failed at it afterwards due to the enemies they made in diplomatic talks.
  Ginger  insulting the clan leader of Union, while he tried to get a fief for Wolves. Afterwards deteriorating relations, ending up as a clusterfuck in strat 3.0, well that at least was my impression of how that went down.

I wish you continously best of luck in achieving the ideal state of a diplomatic stance.
Neutrality is the way to go for the true players.

EDIT: also big +1 for the incoming civil war

[Panos_]

yes, if you like getting stabbed in your back, ally kinngrimm 

[kinngrimm]

yes, if you like getting stabbed in your back, ally kinngrimm 

and if you like getting trolled, lets all vote again for "Free PANOS"

[kinngrimm]

Quincy neutrality's success lay in secrecy, it could have had any deal with any faction and that made them dangerous to attack - fear ze unknown!

Also that they were likeable individuals despite being archers, that doesn't hurt either.

Can't really say having an NAP is breaking neutrality, not attacking a faction doesn't make you their ally, otherwise whole map was allied with Greys since January having NAP with everyone is total neutrality, and people knew they'd only make life harder for themselves if they attacked Quincys. In a strat of 2 blocks they're the only sizeable faction i know who managed to not get dragged in.

GG Quincys! Hope you play next round!

I dont disagree, but i was pointing out the state of mind of some of the leaders within those blocks. Therefor sure NAP is fine, but i formyself who have had a NAP with Coa and Mercs, wouldnt have gotten that if i didnt choose to fight their enemies and wouldnt have gotten it if i woudltn already have been friends and allies to Templars. So you may argue on a logical level only that NAPs "shouldnt" have implications, but in realtiy they may.

[En_Dotter]

A few thoughts on neutrality

Neutrality maybe a chosen stance, but only if the surrounding factions allow it, you can keep it. Otherwise those who pressure you may drive you into the enemies camp. As with clan sizes it is also with allies, strenght through unity, before you would get wiped you will find an ally to help you(if only by action and not offically by treaty)...

so big +1 for the incoming civil war

In order not to spoil our diplomatic ways i will say only one thing: neutrality is in the eye of the person looking at it. If our (unknown to you) deals shifted our neutrality towards one side dont u think someone would have openly attacked us or threatened us? Or maybe others thought "Well, Quincies must be dealing with our enemies, but... Let em have it. Their neutrality can come in handy for us at one point. After all they can move almost anywhere they want. They are selling troops, we might need troops. They can bring and deliver different stuff to and from almost anywhere - from EU to NA and back even. Its better to have them ready for hire than to force them out of our game."

Of course we had diplomatic problems, but nothing that wasnt fixable... at one point... at least we hope.
We werent perfect but we sure did the best we could and in our biased point of view we did a hell of a job.

P.S.
Due to some stuff, civil war is postponed to tomorrow. Sorry guys

[En_Dotter]

CIVIL WAR HAS STARTED

Those pesky rebels think they can get more experience than the true Quincy force! They are wrong! Time to fight and enjoy!
Apply for both sides and we will try to balance out rosters. No flag capping and defender must win in the end to avoid teleportation of the defeated defender.
Team Speak info will be posted in briefings.

Here is the 1st battle: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=6202

[Vermilion]

Good luck with the timing, my battle got pushed back over 6 hours

Get some good EXP!!!

[Butan]

If someone put together every battles in a list since strat end announcement, I think our monitors would explode.

[722_]

i know its not your hood en_dotter, but a really similar item that will hopefully make it into the game in the next update, its the same hood that adapts to the colour of the banner. will be a great item for the clan
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http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/light-heraldic-tabard/

[722_]

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[Kamirane]

*bumps*

The Quincy clan

The Quincy (滅却師 (クインシー), Kuinshī; lit. "Monk of Destruction") in modern terms, they are Human mediums, having the ability to detect the existence of darkness and the ability to absorb and manipulate spirituals flow into weapons.

Archery is the most used form of combat among the Quincy. Extremely accurate, maintaining the distance from highly dangerous enemies as well as launching numerous attacks on multiple opponents gives them a great advantage offensively and defensively.

People say that Quincies can hide sun with an iron rain and that Quincy's victims are considered as purified.

There are no real rules, only guidelines:

- Quincies are honest and pure, they only fight for light and justice, they protect children and virgins too.

- Quincies are polite and helpful, they rarely/never hit ally; they are really sorry when it happens.

- Quincies prefer wearing white clothes (not a rule)

Approved by John Quincy Adams.

"Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish."

About us

The Quincies are an archer clan and we have decided to start a faction on strategus. Currently we have 15 players in strategus (1 is pretty much inactive) and we intend to increase that number. Our goal is to become the ultimate caravan faction. Any archer may apply to join the clan (we accept alt accounts too), but not everyone can join us on strategus. We consider strategus and "ordinary" servers as separate games, so don't be shy to apply.

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Our lands

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Our Fiefs aren't free trading centers and we will defend our s&d accordingly. Anyone who wants to go through our lands should inform us first and they will be granted free passage. Anyone entering our territory without announcement and permit will be attacked without warning.

Government

Quincy Clan is a merchant republic. Decisions are made during meetings usually by the process of voting. Any member with the right to vote can debate their point of view in the matter being discussed at that moment to try to persuade others to support member's view. Nobody is allowed to make independent decisions. Owners of fiefs are not their actual owners, they are just governors who's job is to manage the fief and protect the s&d. All fiefs are property of Quincy Clan and no individual can make any claim on them. Quincy Clan borders can only be changed during the war and/or by buying and selling of fiefs. No individual is allowed to buy and/or sell a fief in the name of Quincy Clan or in their own name.

Diplomacy

We do not intend to make any friends or enemies. Our goal is to try to keep neutrality as much as possible. We do not intend to attack other factions (unless they are an obvious threat for our lands); however we might attack players that are not in any faction. If our target is a neutral caravan working for a faction, the target should tell the faction they work for to send us a message and we will call off the attack and make a note for future reference. We will consider this information strictly confidential and will never share it with other factions. While we don’t want to make any allies, friends and enemies we will try to make as much trade agreements as possible.

Business

Only deals we will make are caravan deals. Every caravan deal we make is STRICTLY confidential and considered privileged information. If the other side cannot promise confidentiality for the potential deal Quincies will not sign it. There is no payment or bribe that could make us break the privilege. We DO NOT do any spy missions. If we start spying on our clients then we will never be hired again. Depending on the business deals we sign we can ask for payment in advance, or after the job is done or part before and part after the job is done.

Rosters

Quincies do not take sides in battles and we cannot be bribed to take a side. We join rosters to gain experience and battle skill.
We encourage all to join our roster when we are under attack. By protecting us you are protecting the caravans that are just trying to earn some money or honor their deals.
Since the Quincy Clan is an archer Clan and Faction we will try to join as many sieges and raids as possible and we will try to join defenders rosters as much as we can, no matter the side. Sometimes we might join the attacking side if we decide to try ourselves in the offensive role.
We will try join normal battles to gain experience and that means that we will often apply for the side with more troops. Sometimes we might apply for the side with less troops.

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Contacts

Quincy_En_Dotter
Quincy_Kamirane

_________   NEWS  (Last update 16/9/2013 09:00 CET)   __________

-- Thanks to Maat we now got our website!!! Check it out, NOW! http://quincyclan.wix.com/quincy-clan

-- We have a permanent TS3 server now. Its Steel Axes TS that is shared with some other factions:  91.121.26.112:9999

-get this up pack "Heirlooms model" by Final_Boss,if u want to see more weapon skins for +1/+2/+3 // -1/-2/-3 weapons, very nice work =) : http://depositfiles.com/files/e10h0rqqd

-get a really cool sound pack for better ranged feeling:

http://www.solidfiles.com/d/77c75cb710/

[En_Dotter]

Quincy Clan as a Faction will not exist in Strategus 5. We played our game as a merchant republic and now we want something different. We decided to do a new role-pay faction.
We will be know as Council of Calradia.
In order to make it easier for other factions we have opened a new thread with all the info. Info is constantly being updated so be sure to check from time to time.
Here is the thread link: http://forum.melee.org/faction-halls/*council-of-calradia*-new-faction-in-the-service-of-the-community/

[Kamirane]

...We decided to do a new role-pay faction.
...

OMG. i have to pay....