Los Angeles Cops going on rampages

[SixThumbs]

Although I haven't really taken a solid stance and I don't own any firearms, why not? That is taking into consideration they are normal. I think more of an issue is what sort of upbringing and culture promotes school shootings and murderous rampages.

[Miwiw]

ask any western european if they ever needed a gun as protection

Fixed. Cant be sure about the rest.

[no_rules_just_play]

its funny, when you go on the internet and especially youtube, you see those american gun lovers reacting on gun propaganda and believing everything that is said, while every clear thinking person can see what kind of biased bullshit those people are saying. people that use valid arguments are just plants for them

[SixThumbs]

Well, after seeing those pictures in the first post if you're going to ban firearms then take them away from the police too.

[[ptx]]

ask any european if they ever needed a gun as protection

Fixed. Cant be sure about the rest.

Re-fixed, it is the same.

[Tibe]

Well, after seeing those pictures in the first post if you're going to ban firearms then take them away from the police too.

Well you see there is the problem. The police are provoked in USA by the fact that they know that alot of people own serius hardware. In most countries the police doesnt have to worry while driving trough a neibhourhood or arresting someone that they will get shot by a shotgun or assault rifle. In normal countries(not USA) police can quietly come near criminals, do mybe one selfdefence move if necessary and thats the main story of the month in the whole policedepartment. I think even you would be on the edge in 'murica as a cop if you knew that every person can have an entire armory in their disposal.

[SixThumbs]

Like I said, I have no vested interest in firearms and I live in a relatively safe area of the U.S. (although not far from the Newtown incident) but who are they going to elect to confiscate all these firearms that people use more or less responsibly? Who are you going to send into the ghettos to take these weapons and what about the unregistered ones floating around? What about the ~100,000 guns we "lost" to cartels in Mexico? Do we need to disarm Norway for the shooting that happened last year at a youth rally?

Disarming the population could possibly curb gun violence but I think I'd prefer getting shot to stabbed or bludgeoned to death.

[Tibe]

I know. Im just pointing out the facts. Ofcourse the goverment is scared and even quite helpless to disarm the civilians. All im saying is that they should admit that its a problem, enlighten people. But instead they let these gunmakertycoons brainwash the population into buying more guns. And Norway is relatively disarmed. Guns do way more damage than stabbing or bludgeoning. There are no innocent bystanders for one thing, cause when you stab someone you normally stab the guy you wanted to stab.

[SixThumbs]

I didn't see any facts pointed out to be fair. People don't wander the streets with "serious hardware" or point them at a passerby on the street and if they were intelligent they would lock them up away from the nutbag children they did or didn't raise.

Also, the police are "provoked" by the smallest indication of sleight against their authority.

[Tibe]

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Also, the police are "provoked" by the smallest indication of sleight against their authority.
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Isnt that same everywere? But istantly getting peppersprayed, tased or or getting a gun aimed at for it doesnt happen in many civilized places. Im not speaking about the nutbag children. Its adults. Its scary. People do get depressed alot and its bad if a common nutbag can easly get a weapon that could clear a room. People walking around the streets with serius hardware is not really what I ment by it. The fact that every person could easly own such a killing machine alone is frightening. Its like if countries you never knew that even exsisted owned nuclear bombs. Even if internationally they were allowed to own one. What if one of those countries snapped? Same with gun ownership, just scale and damage is smaller. Dont get me wrong. Id understand why a person whould need lets say a huntingrifle or handgun. Why would anybody need an assault rifle, is beond me.

Id prefer to get nuked instead of stabbed, bludgeoned or shot to death. Lots quicker and painless. Why dont we just give every person their individual mininuke. See my point?

[Tagora]

Id prefer to get nuked instead of stabbed, bludgeoned or shot to death. Lots quicker and painless. Why dont we just give every person their individual mininuke. See my point?

I ain't givin' up my nukes.

[CrazyCracka420]

this just in, the guy from the original story (Christopher Dorner) is the first American on US soil to be confirmed as a target for drone strike:  http://m.now.msn.com/christopher-dorner-is-first-drone-target-on-us-soil

I can't express how angry this makes me...but I can't say I'm surprised.  I've seen this coming for over 10 years.

[[ptx]]

Drone target, not drone strike, means it might just be a surveillance drone used to track him, right?

[CrazyCracka420]

Drone target, not drone strike, means it might just be a surveillance drone used to track him, right?

yeah but how do you surrender to a drone?  of course there's no issues with using drones for surveillance, why would they even need to mention that?  we also use satellites for surveillance too

[Anal Bleeding]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-man-carries-assault-rifle-penney-article-1.1242834