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Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« on: February 01, 2013, 09:41:51 pm »
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"The double-headed eagle is the most recognizable symbol of Orthodoxy today (other than the cross) and was the official state symbol of the late Byzantine Empire, symbolising the unity between the Byzantine Orthodox Church and State, which was governed by the principle of Symphonia or Synallelia, that is, a "symphony" between the civil and the ecclesiastical functions of Christian society."

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Maybe you should learn some proper Byzantine History before going around saying that two headed banner is Serbian or Albanian..
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 10:09:06 pm »
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"The double-headed eagle is the most recognizable symbol of Orthodoxy today (other than the cross) and was the official state symbol of the late Byzantine Empire, symbolising the unity between the Byzantine Orthodox Church and State, which was governed by the principle of Symphonia or Synallelia, that is, a "symphony" between the civil and the ecclesiastical functions of Christian society."

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Double-headed_eagle

Maybe you should learn some proper Byzantine History before going around saying that two headed banner is Serbian or Albanian..

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 10:09:19 pm »
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 10:12:54 pm »
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Crown - royal crown of dynasty Karađorđević, it symbolise monarchy
Two headed eagle is old Byzantine sybol that Serbian royal family Nemanjići taken when they entered Byzantine empire.
322. Stefan III later named Dechanski was married to Mary Paleolog,dother to panhipersevast Johan, nephew of byzantine emperor Andronik II.
That 4 B or 4S that we use was resoult of Serbian Greek empire cyz Serbian emperor Dusan the mighty conquered  this

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and used this as symbol

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source of my claims

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 10:16:30 pm »
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Byzantines bringed Serbs to Balkan in 616 year.
They lived in peace with Bulgarians and bouth of nations where loyal to Byzantine emperor.
in 9 century Serbs were converted to christianity. We had wars with Bulgarians and may nobles wanted to liberate from Byz and had wars,but there was also a lot of love. It is too big story to whrite and translate to english.

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 10:21:25 pm »
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Albanians were atheistic,italians tried to bring them to chantolich religion,but when Turks came they were converted to Islam.
Their state was formed in 1912 so they are youngest nation in Europe. Just look at their color of skin,they are not European.
Dunno about their history cuz they never had state and i hate them. One thing is shure they have nothing in common with Byzantines.

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 10:22:13 pm »
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I hate albanians too.
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 10:25:10 pm »
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i finaly found it.

Four letters S, modeled on the Byzantine emblem with four Beta, the Serbian coat of arms was introduced by Stefan Lazarević, after he became the Byzantine despot 1402nd year. Later, this symbol became an acronym signifying the motto of Serbia:
Samo sloga Srbina spasava or in English Only unity saves the Serbs.

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2013, 10:38:54 pm »
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I hate albanians too.
Panos we should be buddies. Serbs hate Turks also.

There was 2 big battles.
Bitka on river Marica in 1371 where Serbian army was drunk and they were slayed on sleep,and after that there was large battle in 1389 on Kosovo field where every Serbian male went to fight vs Ottoman empire.
Bouth armies were destroyed in battle,and Emperor Murat was killed and Stefan was killed too. We loosed too much peaople in that battle and we couldn't recover from that loose for few centuries cuz western chatolic countries fucked us because we were ortodox.
Son of Murat Bayasit went to Turkey and lead rest of his army to Turkey to fight for throne and Serbia lived 90 years more after it fell under Ottoman empire.
Some of people went to Austro-Hungarian empire to live and fight vs Ottomans.
Hussars were Serbian light cavalry that would enter villages  where Turks where and they would kill them and then return to Vojvodina that was part of AH empire.
Bosnians (Kulin's people) were also Serbs but they converted to islam under Ottoman rulembut Serbs sayed ortodox.
While ottoman rule many Serbs died and meny fled to Austro Hungarian empire,and then Tursk bringed gypsies and Albanians to Kosovo to repopulate area and they accepted islam.
So when Yugoslavia fell appart US,Turks and other chatolic countries supported them to take from us our territory and Albanians destroyed almoust all of monasteries that Nemanjic dynasty that was in good relation withy Byzantines built.
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 10:48:23 pm »
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Mlecke, I`m from the Greeks that yell that Kosovo is Serbian.
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 10:52:47 pm »
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Oh please Bosnians,Croats,Macedonians,Monteblack in spanishs are so much butthirt when they hear the truth.
We are the same peaople that came here in 7th century. Except you took later islam from Turksm,Croats took chatolic religion from AustroHungarian empire,and rest of nations were under influence of Byzantines.
Shure you were christians before comming of Ottomans,and you sold ur religion to some benefits.

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 10:53:16 pm »
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Taking sides is a dangerous side of history, Panos, don't you know that?

I know it, but Greeks always did that.

As a Greek I hate albanians and Skopjans only, because both of them are gypsie races that are trying to steal our history and make it their own.

edit: that macedonians killed me mlecke  :cry:
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 10:58:44 pm »
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Mlecke, I`m from the Greeks that yell that Kosovo is Serbian.
Dude i totaly support Greece,those Macedonians are stealing ur history.
They build monuments to Greek counquerors like Alexander the Great,the same shit Croats and Albanians are doing to us.
Croats,Bosnians,Monteblack in spanishs,and Serbs are speaking same language because of Serb Vuk KAradzic who made Serbian language,and they are trying now to create their languages from our one. Only difference is dialect,but we speak same language.
Crats are now claming that their  whriting is cyrilic. I mean wtf and Albanians are claming that son of Stefana Nemanje (Nemanjic's dynastu) Rastko or Saint Sava that fought for our church is Albanian. :lol:
They don't have their own history so they are stealing our. 
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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 11:02:10 pm »
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Let's assume what you say is true. What difference does it make? 1000 years ago we were all Serbs, 100.000 years ago we were all monkey, 1,000.000 years ago were were simple-celled organisms, 100 years from now we might not even exist at all. Your point? Besides your obvious attempt to try to start a flame war (even you admit that so many get angry when they hear "the truth"), I see no point.
you said that i am not speaking the truth.
I just don't get it why would someone deny it? Shure Bosnian have history,but why deny part of it?

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Re: Kulin, Leshma please read this..
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 11:07:29 pm »
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This is the Eagle of Palaiologos Dynasty of Byzantine Empire, according to Turkish websites.

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And this is the coat of arms of Serbia

So you can use the banner for both Bogumili and Bandits, argument over? :P