Sick to my stomach

[Firebrand]

Ignoring all shit adn insults... Lets all your laughts and sarcasms stays with you!


I am glad that after long time they brought back Changing of the Guard of Honour at Mamayev Kurgan! Everytime i get up those stairs to Mamay hill i have tears in my eyes!
Eternal memory to the fallen heroes in Stalingrad! Let such thing never will happen again...

[Nazurdin]

Omg, firebrand, chill out, people like you are giving us bad name. My grand grandfather died defending Leningrad, my grandmother was brought to Germany to serve as a fucking slave, and you know what? i don't give a shit. It happened fucking 70 years ago and people are still butthurt. 8 out of 10 soviet movies are about this fucking war, government and their TV puppets are glorifying our victory like its the only achievement of 20th century.

And bravo ptx, you wanted drama - you got it.

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[Firebrand]

I am calm. I don't care what drama who wants. I said my opinion. If you don't care your history its your problem. I don't wanna be "Иван, не помнящий родства." Каким ты выглядишь говоря что тебе пох, на то что было 70 лет назад...

My grand grandfather died defending Leningrad, my grandmother was brought to Germany to serve as a fucking slave, and you know what? i don't give a shit. It happened fucking 70 years ago and people are still butthurt.

Its just show your ignorance and indifference i am sorry for you.

[Tibe]

True...people do need to chill abit about it. I for one usually try pretty damn hard to chill about it, cause I like russians(most of the time). They helped me out quite alot and I even work with few.This time I quess Firebrand was provoked but normally I wouldnt suggest saying that soviets didnt commit any genosides and other warcrimes, cause that kinda pisses people off. Like I said, we would get along much more better if they would know history like it is, not deny it and say the usual North Korean favorite line: "Its Western propaganda". I admit, western history does have some propaganda, but factually its usually somewhat accurate. And what I heard from a grown up russian person in Finland about WW2 was just epic factual error, which I think makes any person just go "da fuck?" After that experience im still woundering what magicalhistory do you study in that UupaLuupaland.

[Firebrand]

Ok. No more politic and history as part of politics. Just funny to read comments of average europeans about hundrets millions victims executed civilians by Stalin personally! They sure about it, even if they never tried to make sure to check if its true... As i stated before all archieves are awialble to research! But who cares... They have opinion and thats enough... In best case some even read some book with catchy name!

[Molly]

Ok. No more politic and history as part of politics. Just funny to read comments of average europeans about hundrets millions victims executed civilians by Stalin personally! They sure about it, even if they never tried to make sure to check if its true... As i stated before all archieves are awialble to research! But who cares... They have opinion and thats enough... In best case some even read some book with catchy name!

You, good Sir, are an ignorant of epic proportions.

[Firebrand]

You, good Sir, are an ignorant of epic proportions.

Thank you, your opinion is so important for me.

[Tibe]

Lol its good how adult we stay about this.    Enough butthurt for one day, lets fill it with funny russian gifs and pics.

[Nazurdin]

Lol Firebrand just for you I visited this website http://greatstalin.ru Sadly english version is not working but even from the name you can see that its a pro-Stalin site. Main slogan is "Learn the TRUTH about Great Stalin". I regards of repressions it says:

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В итоге получится более или менее объективная цифра осужденных при Сталине за контрреволюционные преступления - 2319516 человек. Именно их трагическая участь и имеет право на особое внимание. Потому как среди них были как справедливо осужденные, так и несправедливо. И это, к глубокому сожалению, непреложный факт. Много это или мало? Во всяком случае, явно не десятки миллионов, коими непрерывно стращают записные «демократы».

"All in all we have more or less unbiased number of convicted for counterrevolutionary crimes during Stalin rule - 2 319 516 people. Their tragic fate have the right for special attention. That is because among them was justly and unjustly convicted. And this tragically a fact. Is it many or not? At least its not tens of millions, by which "democrats" are trying to scare us."

2 fucking millions, is the amount of people killed in you beloved meatgrinder called Stalingrad battle. Hail Stalin!

[Overdriven]

Sure thing...

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Obviously it is Western Propaganda, that left almost every other latvian family with missing family members, neighbours and relatives during WW2. Yeah, western propaganda loaded them onto cattle trains and sent them off to Syberia, which most of them didn't even reach alive. The few survivors, either ones that returned to Latvia or ones that still survive in some Syberian villages are also spouting western propaganda.
Also, western propaganda, that shot just as much people in the head with a nagant and buried them in mass graves in the central prison courtyard, that was dug up after chocolate chip cookies occupied the territory - they didn't even need to employ propaganda, they just invited all the surviving local photographers and journalists to the event, as they dug.

I admit, i do feel guilty, for it was the purpose of this thread to expose some people.

[Firebrand]

Lol Firebrand just for you I visited this website http://greatstalin.ru Sadly english version is not working but even from the name you can see that its a pro-Stalin site. Main slogan is "Learn the TRUTH about Great Stalin". I regards of repressions it says:

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В итоге получится более или менее объективная цифра осужденных при Сталине за контрреволюционные преступления - 2319516 человек. Именно их трагическая участь и имеет право на особое внимание. Потому как среди них были как справедливо осужденные, так и несправедливо. И это, к глубокому сожалению, непреложный факт. Много это или мало? Во всяком случае, явно не десятки миллионов, коими непрерывно стращают записные «демократы».

"All in all we have more or less unbiased number of convicted for counterrevolutionary crimes during Stalin rule - 2 319 516 people. Their tragic fate have the right for special attention. That is because among them was justly and unjustly convicted. And this tragically a fact. Is it many or not? At least its not tens of millions, by which "democrats" are trying to scare us."

2 fucking millions, is the amount of people killed in you beloved meatgrinder called Stalingrad battle. Hail Stalin!

Btw interesting article. 2 million convicted people for conterrevolutionary crimes... How much of those people was guilty in crimes? And how much of them was innocent(main question)? How much of them was executed? How much of them returned home during Stalin rule? How much of them released after Stalin death? Still no evidences of millions EXECUTED INNOCENT people.

Btw do you know how much millions people are sitting in prisons in america? How much of them unguilty? How much of them sentenced to execution?

[Firebrand]

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"Докладная записка НКГБ СССР №2288/М в ЦК ВКП(б), СНК СССР и НКВД СССР об итогах операции по изъятию антисоветского, уголовного и социально опасного элемента в Литве, Латвии и Эстонии

17 июня 1941 г.

Подведены окончательные итоги операции по аресту и выселению антисоветского, уголовного и социально опасного элемента из Литовской, Латвийской и Эстонской ССР.

По Литве: арестовано 5664 человека, выселено 10187 человек, всего репрессирован 15851 человек.

По Латвии: арестовано 5625 человек, выселено 9546 человек, всего репрессирован 15171 человек.

По Эстонии: арестовано 3178 человек, выселено 5978 человек, всего репрессировано 9156 человек.

Всего по всем трем республикам: арестовано 14467 человек, выселено 25711 человек, всего репрессировано 40178 человек.

В том числе по трем республикам:

а) активных членов контрреволюционных националистических организаций арестовано - 5420 человек, выселено членов их семей - 11038 человек;

б) бывших охранников, жандармов, полицейских, тюремщиков арестовано - 1603 человека, выселено членов их семей - 3240 человек;

в) бывших крупных помещиков, фабрикантов и чиновников бывшего госаппарата Литвы, Латвии и Эстонии арестовано - 3236 человек, выселено членов их семей - 7124 человека;

г) бывших офицеров польской, латвийской, литовской, эстонской и белой армий, не служивших в территориальных корпусах и на которых имелись компрометирующие материалы, арестовано - 643 человека, выселено членов их семей - 1649 человек;

д) членов семей участников контрреволюционных организаций, осужденных к ВМН, арестовано - 27 человек, выселено - 465 человек;

е) лиц, прибывших из Германии в порядке репатриации, а также немцев, записавшихся на репатриацию и по различным причинам не уехавших в Германию, в отношении которых имеется компрометирующий материал, арестовано - 56 человек, выселено - 105 человек;

ж) беженцев из бывшей Польши, отказавшихся принять советское гражданство, арестовано - 337 человек, выселено - 1330 человек:

з) уголовного элемента арестовано - 2162 человека;

и) проституток, зарегистрированных в бывших полицейских органах Литвы, Латвии и Эстонии, ныне продолжающих заниматься проституцией, выселено - 760 человек;

к) бывших офицеров литовской, латвийской и эстонской армий, служивших в территориальных корпусах Красной Армии, на которых имелся компрометирующий материал, арестовано - 933 человека, в том числе: по Литве - 285 человек, по Латвии - 424 человека, по Эстонии - 224 человека..."

[Tibe]

Btw interesting article. 2 million convicted people for conterrevolutionary crimes... How much of those people was guilty in crimes? And how much of them was innocent(main question)? How much of them was executed? How much of them returned home during Stalin rule? How much of them released after Stalin death? Still no evidences of millions EXECUTED INNOCENT people.

Btw do you know how much millions people are sitting in prisons in america? How much of them unguilty? How much of them sentenced to execution?

Who the fuck in this thread cares about America? This is not about America man. We never said we supported USA, dont change the subject now. Again one quite usual communist trait is to to talk about America all the time and how EEEEEVIIL it is. Right now, who cares really?

These facts and everything about Soviet Unions crimes do not come from West. These come from all the people that lived trough it. Your facts come from hugely in denial warveterans and bribed people. Why do you seriuslly think we despise Soviet Union like we do? If it wouldnt have been so horrible and simply Western propaganda we wouldnt hate it as much. USA and other more distant  countries would, cause they wouldnt know jack about what really happened. But we would, cause we were right next to Soviet Union, heck we were  part of the Soviet Union.

[Overdriven]

Berlin Wall still exists guys. You know those videos of people pulling it down? WESTERN PROPAGANDA.