Shu Han declares war on the infamous Crusader Alliance

[BASNAK]

You realize we handed over derchios castle to them less than a week ago, think those troops might be to do with that?

All right there was no way I could have known that. I saw the same player that reinforced you, standing in line to siege Uxhal though.

[baybars]

by the one who created us, you may be vaster in number, more feirce in actions and may intimidate other, but i swear it we do not fear no army, no man and no tyrrants, you are brave now you have numbers, but remember this we have something you will never have, the will and spirit to call ourselves free men who bow to no man, who are not affraid to speak up in the face of oppression and injustice, we do not bow down to be dry humped by kingrim and co, we are men who fight with honour, integrity and justice, know this you filthly oppressors of a free Calradia, history will know the Great Shu Hans, Fierce Rice Eeaters, Fearless Byzantiums, Mighty Ottomons and ourselves the Noble Ghurabas as the ones who rose up and fought for a free and equal Calradia.

to all whom are still on the fence i urge you to join our cause the cause of a free and just Calradia, do not fear we shall be victorios either on the battlefield or in history RISE TO THE CALL OF A FREE LAND WERE ALL MEN ARE EQUAL, we fight for the freedom of all!!!

[Keshian]

[BADPLAYER_old2]

I think you just convinced most of NA to join the templars.  U.S. doesn't want any more suicide bombers, thank you very much.

Some good casual racism right here.

[Havoco]

I just puked due to RPnerdophobia.

[baybars]

I just puked due to RPnerdophobia.

lol good one

[kinngrimm]

We declared war, but by the looks of it we will be victims of a great gang bang. Coalition, CFA, Apostates were never mentioned in the war decleration. They invited them selves into this war.

hu? i didn't declare war on you, do you want me to do so? You have teh same status as has ShuHan, which is "hostile", don't cross CFA lands, don't make trades close to our parties and we don't have a problem. I don't think Crusaders would call me for help to take you down. They may call me for ShuHan though, but ShuHan will know that also when it happens.

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how the hell did i get on your bad side? have we met before?

So let me get this straight

You after others attacked and declared war on Crusaders, jumped the bandwagon.

Then you cry over getting ganked, while CFA is at the opposite side of the map, declared hostility not war on ShuHan, CFA who delcared war onto Ottomans, which should have more gold/troops and equipment then CFA as they swallowed the remains from the Nords who pussied out, while CFA is also involved in a combined war against GO with others, while CFA invested 13k troops out of their own pockets as everything else we use is from us alone to fend of DRZ, who pretty much went into our lands without a scratch (btw very neutral indeed). CFA if you don't know that, a combination of clans like yours, either rather small and/or new to strategus and not efficency orientated as in one big blob faction(BTW Crusaders why not make 2 factions, you still would be allied SB and Templars but hey more colors on the map). Look at Khudan and around it, many small factions working together, having a good time.

and now you start insulting me here, you know i haven't met you personally, but now i also don't intend to make an effort to do so at any point as you clearly a) have no clue and b) are rude.

[donib]

Guys seriously, let atleast our side not go into advanced strat politics.

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[BASNAK]

All right I didn't make my map to cause trouble. Everyone marked red range from something simple as being  a vassal to our hostiles to  great war contributors and hostiles etc. And as I posted, "in the eyes of Ghuraba", which means its based upon our own view, which also means some parts could be incorrectly marked.

I have to this day only declared war on 3 factions, but regard many as hostiles.

[Nihtgenga]

why not make drz and greys green then? they are as much friendly to you as the Coalition is hostile!

[BASNAK]

why not make drz and greys green then? they are as much friendly to you as the Coalition is hostile!

if rostering for me makes them my friendlies, then you have the wrong understanding what a friendly is.

[Nihtgenga]

if rostering for me makes them my friendlies, then you have the wrong understanding what a friendly is.

What makes the Coalition hostile?

[BASNAK]

What makes the Coalition hostile?

Before the war they invited me to attack Shu Han, They invited Risen to attack Shu Han, which they are doing now. And it's pretty much garantueed that they would attack me if I was to go close to any of their armies or fiefs, I will not go into details why they would attack me.

[Nihtgenga]

Before the war they invited me to attack Shu Han, They invited Risen to attack Shu Han, which they are doing now. And it's pretty much garantueed that they would attack me if I was to go close to any of their armies or fiefs, I will not go into details why they would attack me.

are you Shu Han? No! Are you allied with Shu Han? No, just stated them as "friendly". Your faction is not even part of your explanation?! Sure they would attack you if you came close to their borders, armies or fiefs. They closed the borders, so there is no reason for you to be there as long as you dont have a trade agreement?! cant blame them for that.

if rostering for me makes them my friendlies, then you have the wrong understanding what a friendly is.

if the possibility of being attacked by someone some day in the future makes them hostile, then you have a wrong understanding of what hostile is.

I just dont like how you put yourself and your faction into a martyred position, being over run by huge hordes of enemies.
Because first, as stated in this thread already you brought this upon yourself and second, you overdraw your "bad" position by far, by adding the Coalition.

[BASNAK]

I sided with Shu Han yes, in fact even before the war started. My information is all based upon recent events and what I've heard from the Eastern Block themselves during first day.  You know I was in TS with Eastern block the first day discussing the war right? before Ghuraba officialy announced what side we would choose. But if they changed their mind, great. If I see no more actions from Coalition and Apostates I'll happily remove them as hostiles.

 If they changed their mind joining in the war, then my information is wrong. Simple as that.

We should stop discussing this and see what the future brings instead.