Ladders back to battle, with high repair costs

[Lennu]

[Son Of Odin]

To siege, maybe... Battle.. NO WAI!

[Miwiw]

On open plains,  yes!

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Nah, joke aside...

even the smallest ladders would make it possible to reach most roofs already. And we know how that ends up.
I'm not sure if high repair costs could stop people from bringing ladders too often tho.
Maybe restrict their allowed amount per round to 2 per team as well.

[Son Of Odin]

Only way I could even imagine them being back is that the team who places ladders couldn't destroy them... We all know where it's going when you give a ranged group a pair of ladders. They get to unreachable roofs and destroy the ladders. Then later there's always someone who doesn't give two shits about the camping rule and keeps shooting even if he is the last one alive. It is known.

[Lennu]

To siege, maybe... Battle.. NO WAI!

Well, on siege you could spam them as much as you want only repair them once. So I don't think the repaircosts would solve the problem as effectively. And most of the siege maps will get fucked over because of ladders letting the attackers reach the flag in less than 30sec. I don't think the battle maps have the same problem

And if the ladders become a problem on battle, just increase the repair costs. 1000 gold per round would just lead to the same situation we have now: No ladders on battle server.

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Only way I could even imagine them being back is that the team who places ladders couldn't destroy them... We all know where it's going when you give a ranged group a pair of ladders. They get to unreachable roofs and destroy the ladders. Then later there's always someone who doesn't give two shits about the camping rule and keeps shooting even if he is the last one alive. It is known.

That's why we get more and more admins 
And maybe just forbid destroying ladders on normal battle servers in general, unless the ladder is actually blocking a path between buildings or limiting the movement on map somehow etc.

[Son Of Odin]

What about totally random chance to get ladders and only the opposing team can destroy them? One of the players gets the ladders totally randomly (would happen really like damn rarely) and his team could not destroy them. Read my last post too Lennu. Not sure if these kind of ladders are possible to make but those would be my conditions to allow ladders.

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That's why we get more and more admins 
And maybe just forbid destroying ladders on normal battle servers in general, unless the ladder is actually blocking a path between buildings or limiting the movement on map somehow etc.

That's also maybe part of the reasons why ladders are out of the game now. Unnecessary pressure for admin team.

[Vibe]

No, in no way, no form, just no.

[Tzar]

Failed bring back gheyy roof anal adventures thread nr.  : 8  : 

Also here have some -

[Lennu]

Heh, So many "oh no, this will lead to an ethernal ranged campfest" What I mean is that bring back the ladders, but then make it so expensive to use them that they'd appear on the battle server only once or twice in... lets say 5 maps. It's only a matter of repair costs, 10k repair per round then if it looks like they are being overused. And once broken a ladder couldn't be used unless repaired.
 And if destroying ladders wasn't allowed it would be really easy to bring your own ladder in and just charge the roof if it appears the enemy team is winning thanks to ladder.

But it appears the general opinion about ladders is a no.

[Tzar]

But it appears the general opinion about ladders is a no.

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[Lennu]

But it appears the general opinion about ladders is a no.

I think I'll take that back, now that I saw what Tzar posted

Why not? IF they are so expensive to use, or maybe like SoO and Miwiw said, the use of them would be very limited.

[Tzar]

All you need is one to ruin the gameplay for 50% of the other people who dont play xbow or archer... so forgot it..

[Lennu]

All you need is one to ruin the gameplay for 50% of the other people who dont play xbow or archer... so forgot it..

Good boy, have a +

Now, how does it ruin the gameplay for 50% half of the non-xbows/archers?

[Tzar]

Good boy, have a +

Now, how does it ruin the gameplay for 50% half of the non-xbows/archers?

Surprises me that you as an old player cant remmeber.... but let me refresh your memory from the tapestry of the old days of cRPG

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[Lennu]

Yeah, I remember the ladder spam. And I have to admit it was pure shit  Mainly because people broke the ladders and camped the roof till the round became a draw.
But nowdays we have the flags coming up every round if the timer hits 1.30 or something. So that alone forces the campers to come down at some point. Also if destroying ladder is forbidden, it would become quite easy to attack the roof. But then again, breaking the rules is possible yet bannable.
And I have to admit that I don't want to see that roofcamping happening every round, not even every third round. That's why I suggested the high repairs. People are riding plated chargers every now and then, even tho they will end up losing money. And I was hoping for the ladders to be the same, a rare sight but still there every now and then