Polestun/Polestagger?

[Commodore_Axephante]

I'm looking for a current update and a history lesson...

What is/was polestun/polestagger? In what ways was it nerfed, in what ways does it still exist, and what weapons does it apply to? All polearms? Stab only? Is it different on NA and EU?

Thanks, and sorry if this has been addressed many times before. Couldn't find anything definitive.

[oprah_winfrey]

Polestagger (polestun) was when you hit someone with a polearm, it would sometimes stun them and you would get a free hit. It applied to all non blunt polearms, but is removed now.

[Panos]

It is removed because the 2hand heroes kept crying about it being unfair, because lolstab is fair after all..

[Leshma]

It was removed because developers removed it. If you think that I or any other "2H hero" can influence Paul or cmp to do anything, you're wrong.

[Commodore_Axephante]

From the current Arrow/Polestagger discussion over in general...

• Polestun wasn't removed entirely, polearms still stop people (people hit by polearms can block, but lose all momentum, which usually fucks them up), while other melee weapons don't.

Is that true? There is still a remnant of the old effect around?

[Panos]

It was removed because developers removed it. If you think that I or any other "2H hero" can influence Paul or cmp to do anything, you're wrong.

This mod suffers from heavy 2h lobbyism, please don`t make me repeat my words.

[oprah_winfrey]

This mod suffers from heavy 2h lobbyism, please don`t make me repeat my words.

The poleaxe is the most OP weapon in the game right now, so either:

A) The 2h lobbyists are really bad at their jobs.
B) You are wrong.

[Panos]

^ Yes, and I`m Batman.

[Teeth]

Is that true? There is still a remnant of the old effect around?

I have noticed that as well, even though getting hit by a polearm does not prevent you from blocking anymore, it does seem to stop you dead in your tracks.

Polestagger had a 50% chance of occuring as far as I know. It made you stagger, while not being able to move or block for almost a second. It was far from always a sure double hit, only if you do a very fast second attack. Ashwood pike with 32p unloomed, full turning and polestagger was hilarious. If you are really curious you can still experience polestagger in its full glory on EU_4.

[Leshma]

This mod suffers from heavy 2h lobbyism, please don`t make me repeat my words.

Maybe, but these lobbyist haven't made any progress so far. Who knows what is behind all those nerfs. Certainly not the likes of me, Rufio and Tzar.

^ Yes, and I`m Batman.

You look more like Bane, tbh.

[Panos]

I`ve already said it but that`s ok, I shall say it one more time.

70% of this community plays as a 2hander, the devs are afraid to nerf their class because of massive rage or quitting the mod, and before you say that I talk nonesense look at this examples.

Banok, a well known katana hero, now rolls with a shield though 

shield was already most op weapon in the game. i would definitely reroll shielder now if it wasnt so mind numbly boring to play. guess I could go archer or just quit playing all together.

GTX after a small nerf in the stats of GGS and DS.

Time to go polearm, since danish/german is useless.

Banok cries because shielders got a slightly buff, and GTX..well is GTX.

Now, imagine what will happen if a REAL 2H NERF comes to the mod..

[Leshma]

70% of this community plays as a 2hander

You just pulled that out of your ass. We both know that's not true. Just because twohanders kill you most of the time doesn't mean there is 70% 2H players. Yes, there is a lot of turkish/spanish players who are 2H but there isn't really that much 2H players compared to earlier version of cRPG.

[Macropus]

Now, imagine what will happen if a REAL 2H NERF comes to the mod..

I'm sorry to say, but after some recent experience playing in EU3 and EU1 I must admit 2h needs no nerf. It is already punished enough by ranged and such.
Though it's hard to judge as a regular player. I hope devs see in in more objective view and know what to do.
PS: I'm shielder, just to avoid misunderstanding. 

[Panos]

You just pulled that out of your ass. We both know that's not true. Just because twohanders kill you most of the time doesn't mean there is 70% 2H players. Yes, there is a lot of turkish/spanish players who are 2H but there isn't really that much 2H players compared to earlier version of cRPG.

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Yes...right out of my ass.

see how many poles are on that lists and how many 2handerswords.

Please leshma..

[Leshma]

Have you checked out my armory? I play 2H yet I have no loomed 2H weapons. Marketplace is a place where people trade, that doesn't mean they use all that stuff.

And everyone wants a MW Longsword because it's good and has a pretty good price on the market.